Bassbob
Emissary
I offered my wife to use one of mine ( the small one). She never took me up on it. Thankfully. There ain’t no extra room in them anymore.
Gun Safes
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Pitdogg2
Professional
These are the best electronic keypads. Have you ever wondered why those sold at Tractor supply have a back up key? Because they're JUNK! My brother is on his 5th keypad on his Winchester safe from tractor supply. He has actually bought several backups. My Browning uses secureRam, the best keypads ( usually)do not include a back up key, they do not need too as they're pretty darn reliable.
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Snipersnest
Alpha
My next safe will have a dial. There's a place around the Boston area that specializes in safes of all kinds and they offer some with dials.
ddeuce22
Professional
Most quality made safes can be converted to accept a dial / lock assembly. Just need a good locksmith/safe tech to do it. It has it's perks and drawbacks just like anything else. Mechanical failure rate is less, but more expensive in a lockout situation. Something to chew on.
ddeuce22
Professional
I'd take an AmSec, Lagard, hell even an S&G before SecuRam. Anything on Winchester safes are garbage, including the safe itself (If you are looking for real security and fire protection). If you are just looking for a cheap safe to keep kids/company out of it, the Winchester will serve it's purpose - but that keypad/lock WILL fail at some point in the near future.These are the best electronic keypads. Have you ever wondered why those sold at Tractor supply have a back up key? Because they're JUNK! My brother is on his 5th keypad on his Winchester safe from tractor supply. He has actually bought several backups. My Browning uses secureRam, the best keypads ( usually)do not include a back up key, they do not need too as they're pretty darn reliable.
Top Rated Electronic Gun Safe Locks
When you purchase a gun safe, you want to be assured that the manufacturer uses only the best electronic safe locks on the market to keep your guns and valuables safe. With so many brands out there, it can be difficult to weed through unreliable and mediocre locks to find the very best locks...
Bassbob
Emissary
I have two. Neither have failed. The oldest one is probably 8 or 10 years old.
I'll let you in on another little known secret. Unless you spend 3k or better on a safe they are all similarly effective security wise. Meaning that with 1/2 hour and a circular saw I can absolutely get into it.
ddeuce22
Professional
I'll let you in on a little secret.... I know this already. We sell real ones at work lol. What you are paying for is how long it will take for someone to get into it, and the fire rating. A quality safe will have a much better effective fire rating than any of these department store rebranded safes, and better materials/construction for burglary resistance.
Safes aren't made to be impenetrable... It's a deterrent to buy time until someone or something else can intervene.
Good or bad they WILL be gotten into with the right tools and time. How quickly will depend on the attacker, and the money invested in the safe.
Bassbob
Emissary
Indeed. Thus, any safe in the $500-$1500 range is essentially the same thing other than various accoutrements.
Bassbob
Emissary
The bigger Winchester safe I have is good for 45 minutes at 1400 degrees.
Believe me I know they aren't "Real" safes. I have maybe $1100 in both of the Winchesters though and they will definitely keep out your average crack head. And even someone who knew what they were doing would need 1/2 an hour they could make ungodly noise. And that's after they find the safes in the first place.
I have a much better safe, but it's much harder for me to access and nearly impossible for anyone else to find, much less access. And I have a slew of other security measures and protocols which led me to conclude spending more money on safes than the stuff in them is worth was not appropriate.