Guns for When the System Finally Falls Silent
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Talyn
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Also, one must consider what works well for their individual area.
What's a good choice for urban, and thick forest areas east of the Mississippi & along "wet" west coast will be of limited use in the Interior West and areas west of the Mississippi that rapid trend to longer-range conditions.
But the PCC can still be useful for compound defense.
And a regular AR needs to be supplemented with a longer-range bolt gun and/or AR-10 type in either .308 or 6.5 CM where the conditions require it.
I've got all my bases well covered. Just patiently waiting for a local/regional manufacturer to release their newly upgraded major cal/large-frame "piston" AR-10 type in 6.5CM to close the Tier 1 circle, although I already have a DI AR-10 type in 6.5 CM and .308 to to complement the bolt guns in the same.
What's a good choice for urban, and thick forest areas east of the Mississippi & along "wet" west coast will be of limited use in the Interior West and areas west of the Mississippi that rapid trend to longer-range conditions.
But the PCC can still be useful for compound defense.
And a regular AR needs to be supplemented with a longer-range bolt gun and/or AR-10 type in either .308 or 6.5 CM where the conditions require it.
I've got all my bases well covered. Just patiently waiting for a local/regional manufacturer to release their newly upgraded major cal/large-frame "piston" AR-10 type in 6.5CM to close the Tier 1 circle, although I already have a DI AR-10 type in 6.5 CM and .308 to to complement the bolt guns in the same.
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When this topic or variations come up, the obvious common calibers get listed as the best to build around. I can’t argue with that, but I would also suggest that having some guns in slightly less common calibers might help you out.
I know we’ve all seen that whenever we have an ammo shortage, the oddballs are the last to go. But I’ve noticed that some not-so-odd ones stick around. I’ve seen .270 and 7mm Rem Mag on shelves long after others were long gone. The .243 Win and .25-06 last almost as long.
Reloading could help beyond imagination. Besides the obvious things, reloading might sometimes allow you to make something out of nothing. Find some .243 but can’t use it because you have a .308? If you reload, you can re-form it. That’s something in favor of selecting cartridge(s) belonging to a “family” instead of those that are more unique.
If you reload, consolidating on one bore size might help stretch things a little. If you have .308s, .30-06s, and .300 Win Mags for example, you could now be stocking up on one bullet for them. For example, buying .308” diameter 165 grain bullets whenever there’s a sale gives you a stockpile that will work fine in any of them. Even the weights we’d normally consider specialized, like 110 grains in this .30 cal example, would at least keep you shooting.
That applies on a bigger scale to casting your own bullets. A nice stockpile of lead can become bullets to feed anything if you have a variety of moulds. Even slugs, buckshot, and airgun pellets. I would sure work out those loads now, though.
I know we’ve all seen that whenever we have an ammo shortage, the oddballs are the last to go. But I’ve noticed that some not-so-odd ones stick around. I’ve seen .270 and 7mm Rem Mag on shelves long after others were long gone. The .243 Win and .25-06 last almost as long.
Reloading could help beyond imagination. Besides the obvious things, reloading might sometimes allow you to make something out of nothing. Find some .243 but can’t use it because you have a .308? If you reload, you can re-form it. That’s something in favor of selecting cartridge(s) belonging to a “family” instead of those that are more unique.
If you reload, consolidating on one bore size might help stretch things a little. If you have .308s, .30-06s, and .300 Win Mags for example, you could now be stocking up on one bullet for them. For example, buying .308” diameter 165 grain bullets whenever there’s a sale gives you a stockpile that will work fine in any of them. Even the weights we’d normally consider specialized, like 110 grains in this .30 cal example, would at least keep you shooting.
That applies on a bigger scale to casting your own bullets. A nice stockpile of lead can become bullets to feed anything if you have a variety of moulds. Even slugs, buckshot, and airgun pellets. I would sure work out those loads now, though.
Musashi
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Amber Heard was here.
PieterCoetzee
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Gee I wouldnt want anything with a proprietary system, no matter how much better it might be. I love the FAL and G3s but they just arent viable for an end of the world survival situation and Im on the edge when it comes to the M1A. I can knock on the doors in my neighborhood and 6 out of 10 will have an AR, Im not sure how many would even know what a FAL is....
I hear what youre saying but again. Id rather have 10,000 (or even 100,00) rounds of my primary cartridge and back ups and spares for those guns, then orphans. IDK if you really think less common cartridges are a good thing, then Id suggest chamber and barrel inserts for a cheap break open shotgun
PieterCoetzee
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YES Exactly, Id want one with a SMG length barrel and I guess at the point of no rule of law a real stock
PieterCoetzee
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How'bout a few of each, certainly one for each family member, incase they make their way to you
my wife is definitely not a gun person. i'd be on my own.
PieterCoetzee
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Well I never met her; but Ive met folks that say they arent gun people who suddenly find how to pull the trigger when the wolf is at the door. Maybe she could at least load mags for you... Or you could tell her they are coming to take her shoes and purses and see if that motivates her
Talyn
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All AR-10 types are proprietary.
Your area requirements are different than mine.
Oldmountaiman
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Think I will watch Soylent Green, Omega Man or a old favorite The Beginning of the End with popcorn and Jack. I may still have some sugar, coffee and gas stamps tucked away with my 45 long colt revolver.