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Hearing Protection Act: Are Silencers Legal Now?

And what about the women in States who’ve lost their reproductive rights? Which do you think is the bigger travesty of freedom? Silencer ownership or forced birth?
Except the right to bear arms is provided in the Constitution’s 2nd Amendment, abortion “rights” are not provided for in the Constitution.
 
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thats an opinion not a fact! It will be blocked on the Senate due to it being lumped in!
it is a fact that the hearing protection act cannot get thru the Senate as a stand-alone bill without going thru the filibuster process. I can't imagine why you'd claim that's not true
 
Off topic, but since you've posted incorrect information: "this One unbelievable bill ... giving tax breaks to the richest." It will reduces taxes for those making $30k to $80k per year by 15% on average.
Yeah okay buddy if you say so, then it must be true! It’s the largest redistribution of wealth in our Country, but m444ss doesn’t agree so all the hundreds of scholars must be all wrong! I make it a point in my life not to argue with internet experts in chat rooms!
 
Yeah okay buddy if you say so, then it must be true! It’s the largest redistribution of wealth in our Country, but m444ss doesn’t agree so all the hundreds of scholars must be all wrong! I make it a point in my life not to argue with internet experts in chat rooms!
The largest redistribution of wealth in this country is progressive income tax.

Based on your arguments I can understand why 🙄
 
So the only rights we have in this Country are the one’s in the Constitution? Huh, okay buddy! And you can own a gun in this Country under the Constitution, where does it say Silencers? Someone telling you what to do with your own body is much more infringing that saying you can’t have a quieter gun! Your answer says a lot about you!
Yeah. They are. Every other thing you can call a right can be taken away via an act of congress.
 
The Author says: “Freedom Adverse States”? I thought that states rights which would include 2A rights are enacted by those in power in those states. So how exactly is saying Freedom Adverse States correct? These States have voted for their representatives who in turn make the 2A laws. That would be the EXACT definition of a Free State. I cannot mention any other laws besides 2A or my post will get deleted but there are MANY laws enacted under State’s Rights.
 
Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Hearing Protection Act: Are Silencers Legal Now?” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/hearing-protection-act-are-silencers-legal-now/.

Yes Silencers would be very beneficial for those shooters with disabilities. However the DOJ and current administration have gutted the civil rights division which would handle these 2A and ADA combined cases. Pushing for protection of hearing from shooting sports would be a DOJ issue but would fall under DEI and therefor not enforced. As career Infantry and Combat my hearing matters now more than ever to me. But as someone who specializes in Disability Rights, I can’t envision any DOJ protection for shooting safety!
 
The Author says: “Freedom Adverse States”? I thought that states rights which would include 2A rights are enacted by those in power in those states. So how exactly is saying Freedom Adverse States correct? These States have voted for their representatives who in turn make the 2A laws. That would be the EXACT definition of a Free State. I cannot mention any other laws besides 2A or my post will get deleted but there are MANY laws enacted under State’s Rights.
Yeah, because there are no (blue) states currently infringing on the 2A rights of its citizens. 🙄
 
Yes Silencers would be very beneficial for those shooters with disabilities. However the DOJ and current administration have gutted the civil rights division which would handle these 2A and ADA combined cases. Pushing for protection of hearing from shooting sports would be a DOJ issue but would fall under DEI and therefor not enforced. As career Infantry and Combat my hearing matters now more than ever to me. But as someone who specializes in Disability Rights, I can’t envision any DOJ protection for shooting safety!
That’s absolutely retarded.

You definitely need to go back to not arguing on chat boards. You’re bad at it.
 
They will never allow them to be legal in nj, just like standard capacity mags and flash suppressors.

I heard if it passes, the commie states will outlaw them. I didn't read all the details, but AR15 forum had something on the subject. AR15 banned me and I don't live in a commie state, so not that much interest. Commie state gun nuts wanted silencers to stay on NFA so they can buy them in their commie states...or some such thing.

I don't think Senate will take silencers off NFA. But I don't know. I got a number of silencers but stopped buying them a decade ago. I can use another 8-10, but I won't buy them unless no NFA. I don't want to be on any more lists or at least move my name back to the top after it has been buried for some time.

Silencers are needed for CQB. If you shoot your gun in the house or car with no can, your ears will be damaged. Silencers are just a basic tool that should not be regulated any more than a recoil pad. But that is how the filthy politicians have deemed them to be.

Car seat gun...not trunk gun.

Very quiet in the car cabin. Trunk gun does no good if you are driving and can't get at it; shoot it with 1 hand or maneuver it in the car cabin. I can shoot this with 1 hand if need be while driving.

Very compact, even with can. 50 rounds and no magazine footprint. It would be nice if shells ejected down instead of a passenger's face. And it had 35-40 grain armor piercing and price was cheaper for gun.

...but can't have everything.


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I heard if it passes, the commie states will outlaw them. I didn't read all the details, but AR15 forum had something on the subject. AR15 banned me and I don't live in a commie state, so not that much interest. Commie state gun nuts wanted silencers to stay on NFA so they can buy them in their commie states...or some such thing.

I don't think Senate will take silencers off NFA. But I don't know. I got a number of silencers but stopped buying them a decade ago. I can use another 8-10, but I won't buy them unless no NFA. I don't want to be on any more lists or at least move my name back to the top after it has been buried for some time.

Silencers are needed for CQB. If you shoot your gun in the house or car with no can, your ears will be damaged. Silencers are just a basic tool that should not be regulated any more than a recoil pad. But that is how the filthy politicians have deemed them to be.

Car seat gun...not trunk gun.

Very quiet in the car cabin. Trunk gun does no good if you are driving and can't get at it; shoot it with 1 hand or maneuver it in the car cabin. I can shoot this with 1 hand if need be while driving.

Very compact, even with can. 50 rounds and no magazine footprint. It would be nice if shells ejected down instead of a passenger's face. And it had 35-40 grain armor piercing and price was cheaper for gun.

...but can't have everything.


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Suppressors are legal in 41 states, pretty much all of them require NFA approval. I think Texas is the only state without that requirement as long as the suppressor is made in Texas. I could be wrong. The other 9 states don’t allow them whether they are an NFA item or not. There are also states that have banned the AR15 and “high capacity” magazines. So yes, there are states infringing on the citizen’s 2A rights granted in the Constitution.
 
And unless a “right” is granted in the Constitution, it is a privilege and subject to the laws of Congress or the States.
Respectfully disagree. Rights pre-exist the current constitution. Neither it, nor the government created by it, grant rights.

The Founders knew this:

"...all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..." - Declaration of Independence

Further, the rights specifically listed in the current constitution are not all encompassing:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." - Ninth Amendment
 
Respectfully disagree. Rights pre-exist the current constitution. Neither it, nor the government created by it, grant rights.

The Founders knew this:

"...all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..." - Declaration of Independence

Further, the rights specifically listed in the current constitution are not all encompassing:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." - Ninth Amendment
Agreed that “rights” enumerated in the Constitution didn’t start with the Constitution. The Constitution stipulated that the government shall not infringe on those rights.
 
First, I don't believe that the reconciliation bill is going to get out of the Senate in any currently recognizable form. Musk and a growing number of Senators don't like it as it is. Musk, and the fiscal hawks, think that the bill, as written now, contains way too few spending cuts and way too large an increase in the budget deficit. Given that everyone is DC seems to have their own system of accounting, it is hard to know wherein lies the truth. Suffice it to say that between the usual RINO naysayers, the closet Never Trumpers and the Fiscal Hawks, I think the bill is going to be torn apart and a lot of it rewritten. When it does finally clear the Senate, it then has to go back to the House with the changes. So, I don't look for it to be a "done deal" any time soon.

Second, I am a bit disappointed in the gun community for pushing so vehemently on the suppressor issue without giving as much attention to the SBR issue. The SBR issue has been treated as an afterthought since day one. Suppressors are an "add on" to a functional firearm. They are cool "bling" and, yes, they do offer hearing protection from loud pew pews. But the SBR bill deals with a huge number of actual, real live guns. As an official "old guy" now, my long range shooting of large bore weapons days are, unfortunately, over. It would be really nice to be able to transition over to shorter, lighter weapons so I can continue shooting as my arthritis, torn rotator cuff, bad back, etc.....allows. Further, there are a lot of disabled citizens....including a lot of disabled vets.....who need a shorter, lighter weapon to be able to enjoy sport shooting. The 2A community could have gotten the Americans With Disabilities folks on our side to push for the easy and painless acquisition of SBR's and pistol braces. Yet, we chose to relegate the SBR issue to almost an afterthought. And there is a good chance that adding it to the existing bill is going to get lost in the middle of a knock down, drag out fight over the rest of the bill. I'm just not sure that we had our priorities right on this issue.

+1

It would be nice to upgrade from pistol-braced to SBR without paying the "freedom" tax. I own all five SA Saint pistol models, as well as new production HK SP5 and SP5K models. Would love to be able to bolt inexpensive pieces of plastic to them that don't cost an extra $200 each.
 
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