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Henry Explorer .357 Lever and Marlin SBL 1894 Lever .357 Out of the Box - 13 May 26

Lab4Us

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Decided to put this under guns instead of skills since I was basically comparing these two lever action rifles (and making sure they worked).

I ordered both from Tombstone Tactical and picked up the Marlin on 17 April 26 and the Henry this past Monday, 11 May 26, from my LGS, both new. I found the Marlin pretty easily (well, compared to the Henry), but the Henry was tough to acquire - multiple back in stock notices, but sold out before I could get it. Finally I was in my email on the 6th of May and saw the in stock message when it arrived - immediately ordered and finally secured one! (It’s so bad I had previously completed a sale on one and got an email about 3-4 hours later saying my order was cancel and card refunded). Even this one, when I reviewed box contents, showed Henry’s QC was completed 28 April 26 - so they’re selling them as fast as they can produce them. Guess the burnt bronze finish is a big draw! And apparently .357 Magnum lever action rifles are way more in demand than I thought.

I fired 75 rounds of Freedom Defense 158g .357 Magnum Flat Point Range, followed by 25 rounds of Freedom Defense 158g .357 Magnum Hollow Point X-Def through each, Henry first (because it has irons and I knew eyes would be shot after first 100 rounds), and I have a Holosun 510 on the Marlin rail. Target was at 15 yards for flat points and 10 yards for X-Def hollow point rounds. I was doing my best to aim at the center of the balloon I was shooting at. I was hitting low throughout, but I was okay with that as everything I’ve read indicates it would be just about right at distance.

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First three rounds out of the box. I’ve never used a buckhorn sight, so just did my best to line up front bead with diamond and center at top of buckhorn.


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After the rest of the first 75 flat points.

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This is the 25 rounds of X-Def at 10 yards.

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Next up was the Marlin with the Holosun 510.

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First three rounds out of the box. Side note - This Holosun has the worst flared dot of any Holosun I’ve previously used. It may be because it was closer to my eye (and I do have astigmatism), but I worked with it.

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After the rest of the 75 flat points.

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And the 25 rounds of X-Def hollow point at 10 yards. I did aim at the top of the 8 ring trying to hit more toward the center.

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In my estimation, it was a great experience with both rifles. I made zero adjustments to either the irons on the Henry or the Holosun on the Marlin. I fired all rounds standing with no rest and I’m pretty sure I can hit what I’m shooting at. These will pretty much be range toys anyway, but someday I’ll get to the outdoor range and see how they do at 100 yards.

I did all lever action after the first round was chambered from the shoulder. A couple of times I did put a round in the chamber first so I could test function with 7+1 Henry and 8+1 Marlin, but almost all rounds were loaded from side gate, Both tubes got easier to load as more rounds were loaded throughout the session. The Henry I had one fail to feed, but pretty sure it was lack of lever closing oomph. With the Marlin, I had a few fail to feeds as well, but also a couple of fail to extract. Those could have been lever oomph as well, but it did seem the Marlin barely spit out the rounds when ejected. The Henry spent brass was all over the lane in front of me and at my feet (so bouncing off the dividing wall and bouncing everywhere). The vast majority of the Marlin spent brass I just pick up off the counter between loads and put in used brass barrel. So kind of wondering about the Marlin’s extractor. Should know more after I clean.

It was a pretty fun session and have decided to forego an optic on the Henry since I thought I did pretty good with just irons. Though I could use some tips on using a buckhorn rear sight and how to correctly line up a sight picture - front is a brass bead.

Most importantly, both seemed sighted in and perfectly functional from the factory, though I’ve read about QC issues from both companies and these models. Fortunately for me, I did not experience any issues with these two samples.

I don’t regret either purchase and it seems Freedom Munitions 158g .357 Magnum works great. Both rifles are threaded, the Marlin 1/2x28, which I have a suppressor for. The Henry is 5/8x24 so I’d have to get a different mount. To be honest, I doubt I’ll fire either suppressed or often (cannot see either being as fun as the Kuna), but as they say - it’s there if I need it!
 
i'm playing the field with levers...........i only have 1 (r92) in 44mag, but have 3 in 45-70 (sbl, cb & chiappa takedown). i forgot the blr 270win. for you shoot'n you can tell what gun likes what bullets for sure...............all-n-all still good shoot'n! i want to add some s/w's and rossi's to the 45-70 line and haven't decided on any henry's yet.
 
I may get a .357 lever one of these days. Or go totally insane and get a .327 lever. I'll shoot either .38s or .32s if I do. Nice report. Are you going to try any .38s in either one and if so do you know which load(s)?
As long as I can find .357 Magnum similarly priced to .38 Special, I’ll stick with .357. One or other of the manuals (maybe both, or it might have been on one of the sites - Henry/Marlin, they said to use at least 158g and nothing less, to closely match the length of .357.
 
i'm playing the field with levers...........i only have 1 (r92) in 44mag, but have 3 in 45-70 (sbl, cb & chiappa takedown). i forgot the blr 270win. for you shoot'n you can tell what gun likes what bullets for sure...............all-n-all still good shoot'n! i want to add some s/w's and rossi's to the 45-70 line and haven't decided on any henry's yet.
The first lever I tried was a Rossi 92 blackout. I disassembled it and quickly decided not for me. It will eventually go back to LGS when I find something else I want. But firing the Rossi did convince me I wanted a lever .357. If I could have gotten the Henry I wanted sooner (constant out of stock as I mentioned above), I probably wouldn’t have gotten the Marlin to hold me over, but I’m glad I did.
 
Nice rifles. I love lever guns but at 10 yards they ought to shoot a Lot tighter group that shown. I’ve a Winchester 92 .357 mag and a 1894 Marlin .44 Mag. Either will shoot playing cards at 25 all day long-with factory iron sights. I’ve taken deer out past 100 with both.
 
Nice rifles. I love lever guns but at 10 yards they ought to shoot a Lot tighter group that shown. I’ve a Winchester 92 .357 mag and a 1894 Marlin .44 Mag. Either will shoot playing cards at 25 all day long-with factory iron sights. I’ve taken deer out past 100 with both.
I’m sure a lot of other people are better shots than me as well…especially those with much better eyesight…I don’t take it personally.
 
You can set up a quite good loading system for hundreds in equipment. Thousands if you want to spend it of course, but Lee through Midway can set up a bench for less than $1000. Components will up that of course, but not by a fortune unless one wants it to be.
 
Hey @Lab4Us!

Thanks for sharing all your lever fun! I have two Henrys in my little collection, lov'em. Both the .22 and the .357 needed sight adjustments. It took three sessions and a few tools to get them shooting straight.

I like the peep sights on the .22. The buckhorn sights on the .357, not so much. I'll probably put a set of peep sights on the .357 eventually. It sounds like your sights were much more "on" than mine were out of the box.

I shot mine from a makeshift rest (my backpack) to get them sighted in. I had to use a mallet and punch to drift front and rear sights. I ran out of room on the rear sights, had to start all over again, and adjust the front sights too. The elevation on the buckhorn sight has a rough adjustment, the click ramp, and a fine adjustment, the small plate in the notch of the rear sight has a friction screw.

At 25 yards I have to use a deep 6 o'clock hold. I should be able to raise my POA at 50 and 100 yards. I'll get to an outdoor range soon to check my zero. We'll see who gets there first. ;)

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The Freedom .357 ammo is a good product at a good price, especially if you take advantage of their free shipping specials. I just had 500 rounds delivered a couple days ago.

Your Marlin is a great looking rifle. That gray laminate is beautiful. My Henrys are walnut like yours. I haven't had any issues with feeding or extraction. Pressing the cartridges in the side gate was not smooth at first but it's getting better with break-in. I've got less than 200 rounds through the .357. It will only get better. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
reloading for 357mag is fairly cheap with accurate, ramshot and vv powders. alliant will cost you the most per powder charge as imr and hodgdon is about even. dies can be less than $100 for the 3 and a single stage press can easily be under $100.

powder per charge @10-15 cents
primers per round @ 5-8 cents
brass will be $0 if you use what you saved
bullets per round @10-20 cents

50 round box $12.50-21.50

after 1k round for press and die cost, 20 cents per round

i forgot to add a trimmer, caliper and scale ($200-350) so that adds as much as 35 extra cents per round for the 1st 1k. now the 55 cents per for a box of 50 is $27.50

how much do you pay for ammo
 
My numbers are 19c a round if no brass included, $9.50/bx. That's with an MBC 125gr. RN coated round. Costs can go up six ways to Sunday with different component choices. But figuring $10/bx isn't unreasonable at all. A complete loading bench can be put together for no more than a few hundred dollars with help from Lee. And that can also go up to "how much would you like to spend?" if one is so inclined. But loading your own can pay off in pretty short order.
 
how much do you pay for ammo
This last time, from Freedom Munitions, looks like it was (all rounded up)…

.44 a round for the .357 Magnum flat points
.56 a round for the .357 Magnum X-Def hollow points
.34 a round for the 9mm hollow points

Sales tax adds .04 per round, but then all reloading equipment and supplies would be taxed as well (Texas .0825).

This is the only ammo brand I’ve bought for the rifles specifically to date. I generally shop around, starting with TargetSportsUSA as I keep my plus membership there active and everything, even one box, ships free. I then use ammoseek.com and search for cheapest of what I’m looking and then filter that for both free shipping and free shipping with certain dollar amount purchase. If I don’t find nothing I like there, I drop the UPC of whatever ammo I’m looking for into a search engine and research for lowest price. Almost always I can find something at a price that is reasonable.

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