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NMEDGE said:
I have never used it but have seen what MJ can do. Lives can be ruined. Since New Mexico has legalized it crime has gone up. We have 30000 people in this community and there is no reason to have 15 pot stores! People won't feed their kids but will purchase dope. Free breakfast and lunch at school and now free childcare for everyone! Who gets affected by all this, the taxpayer. So much money state gets for legal dope but they can't even fix a pothole. Half the population is walking around stoned.
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One great thing that N.M. legalizing it did was to relieve the traffic congestion in Trinidad, CO. The first dispensary was at the end of the main street near I-25 (funny enough it was right next to "High Street" :geek: ) and it was always clogged with N.M. plated cars.
 
southtex said:
drinking took me to my first joint....
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You got the order wrong. The reverse order is the usual claim....

But, either way, the "leads to harder drugs" mantra is illogical, and often hilarious.

It's like saying that learning how to drive a car leads to becoming a getaway-car driver in a bank-robbery, just because most getaway-car drivers learned how to drive a car and that escalated to bank robbery.
 
last2brake said:
You got the order wrong. The reverse order is the usual claim....

But, either way, the "leads to harder drugs" mantra is illogical, and often hilarious.

It's like saying that learning how to drive a car leads to becoming a getaway-car driver in a bank-robbery, just because most getaway-car drivers learned how to drive a car and that escalated to bank robbery.
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Not claiming it's a gateway to anything other than getting stoned. I have never been one to follow others so underage beer drinking was the first illicit activity.
 
Pitdogg2 said:

Study Finds Cannabis Usage in Middle Aged and Older Adults Associated With Larger Brain Volume, Better Cognitive Function

New research found, contrary to assumptions, cannabis usage by middle age and older adults led to better cognition and larger brain volumes.
news.cuanschutz.edu
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I see your one study and raise you dozens of studies on health risks. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=marijuana+health+risks&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

You really want to use a study from the UK, one of most restrictive “free” countries on populace freedoms, to make a point? Last I read, they’re arresting people there for non-threatening speech on social media, and I don’t think you can actually own/carry even a pocket knife?

In all seriousness, I’m not sure I want folks who can’t remember which is the brake pedal before accelerating through the front of businesses using substances that further affect their cognizance.
 
southtex said:
Not claiming it's a gateway
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If we're talking gateways, Id suggest its not any one drug; ITS the mentality that says its OK to break the law. When a 12 year old starts smoking cigarettes, hes breaking the law. When his parents KNOW, they are breaking the law. So when he starts smoking POT, hes just another step further down that path of breaking the law.

This is why when some HEROIN addict claims its not his fault, because hes and addict; I ask who held him down and stuck that first needle in his arm? Substitute any illegal drug and alcohol. When I see an addict, I ask who are all the real victims that he stole from?

When I see a 60 year old woman thats been using THC for 40 years because she has anxiety over a motorcycle accident, and cant imagine NOT having pot every day (TRUE STORY), I see someone who requires therapy not pot.
 
last2brake said:
I think that your skewed perception is part of your problem.

Would you want somebody ELSE deciding what is therapeutic for YOU with THEIR standards ? Of course not.

Yet, somehow, YOU've decided that what works for someone ELSE that you don't even know ?

That's a problem.
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YES we do disagree about the therapeutic value of a drug that has no medical standards
 
last2brake said:
OK, even IF it is even just a placebo and it works ?

It still works for her, even if it doesn't work for you.
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It DOES work but its what it does thats problem #1 and problem #2 is that theres no standarization between "lots" and sellers and growers. So todays batch does this and tomorrows does that and how much do you roll today and how much tomorrow
 
Ah, but there have been many medical studies showing benefits of grass, which had a large part in decriminalizing the stuff.

Now, that said, I don't di the stuff, knowingly. I had a tenant who vaped the stuff, I did vap while quitting smoking. She asked if I'd like to try hers, I took it, then she said suck real hard the battery is low.......I coughed my teeth out, choked then stood there. I walked away taking baby steps and sat down in the bar. They had to carry me out, my son came over and put me to bed. I laid there all night and didn't budge, not even a potty run. Nope, she got me, but I'll stick to vodka!
 
Lab4Us said:
I see your one study and raise you dozens of studies on health risks. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=marijuana+health+risks&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart

You really want to use a study from the UK, one of most restrictive “free” countries on populace freedoms, to make a point? Last I read, they’re arresting people there for non-threatening speech on social media, and I don’t think you can actually own/carry even a pocket knife?

In all seriousness, I’m not sure I want folks who can’t remember which is the brake pedal before accelerating through the front of businesses using substances that further affect their cognizance.
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For clarity I have not used an illegal drug since the mid 80's and my employer does randoms monthly including a breathalyzer that has to be below .02. I'm assuming your bottom 2 lines also includes alcohol
 
southtex said:
For clarity I have not used an illegal drug since the mid 80's and my employer does randoms monthly including a breathalyzer that has to be below .02. I'm assuming your bottom 2 lines also includes alcohol
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Of course I’m not a fan of those who make the poor DWUI decision, regardless of intoxicant. And if you’re in a state where marijuana is recreationally legal, it wouldn’t be illegal?
 
Lab4Us said:
Of course I’m not a fan of those who make the poor DWUI decision, regardless of intoxicant. And if you’re in a state where marijuana is recreationally legal, it wouldn’t be illegal?
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Of course, driving impaired should be illegal.

But not JUST "intoxicants", since studies have shown that drivers distracted by cellphones are JUST as likely to cause an accident as a driver at the legal limit (0.08) of alcohol "intoxication".

I'm WAY more MORE concerned with the zillions MORE people who are impaired by their cellphones (you should be, too, along with everybody else, unless you have a different agenda), but that's for another thread...
 
last2brake said:
Of course, driving impaired should be illegal.

But not JUST "intoxicants", since studies have shown that drivers distracted by cellphones are JUST as likely to cause an accident as a driver at the legal limit (0.08) of alcohol "intoxication".

I'm WAY more MORE concerned with the zillions MORE people who are impaired by their cellphones (you should be, too, along with everybody else, unless you have a different agenda), but that's for another thread...
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You keep moving the goal posts. When I made the post you are responding to here, the question you asked was about including alcohol, there was zero mention of cell phones.
 
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