California has gone stage four and I’m tired of people defending the indefensible. The Gen V Glock was a terrible decision based on spinelessness rather than doing what Ronnie Barrett did and when a ban happened, his company stopped selling 50 Cals to Law Enforcement. Removing the MOS feature was an absolute joke as well. This is probably what happens when a young nurse with no firearms knowledge takes over from an old man who owned the company. She by no means understands American culture. And focusing on the law-enforcement only market is how Colt ended up under CZ. That is a strong indicator of how non-business savvy she is, as if you look at history, Ruger didn’t do so well after Bill Ruger said an honest man only needs 10 rounds and defended the Clinton “assault weapons” ban. Lessons were also learned by Smith & Wesson as well. Glock makes good products, but by no means is a friend of the Second Amendment. It wouldn’t surprise me at this point if they would work with a blue state and rat out Glock owners based on who filled out the warranty information.
I’m kinda wondering if Katherin Glock is having one of these moments: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...rever-haunted-blood-money-built-it-180959712/
It is a BS take on it, but covers the Winchester Widow’s decent towards insanity.
It is a BS take on it, but covers the Winchester Widow’s decent towards insanity.
Anchorite
Master Class
Well, I think the jury will be out for a little bit on this.
What we know is that they are making a design change - most likely to eliminate the "switch." Whether or not that is a smart, decision, only time will tell.
Remember when all the AR manufacturers made changes to the way they machined their uppers/lowers/BCG to make it impossible to convert to full auto?
Never seemed to hurt those sales.
Glock, like any other corporation, exists to make money. These decisions are not made in a vacuum. Once we have all the details, I think most will agree it was smart.
The good thing is that we have choices.
What we know is that they are making a design change - most likely to eliminate the "switch." Whether or not that is a smart, decision, only time will tell.
Remember when all the AR manufacturers made changes to the way they machined their uppers/lowers/BCG to make it impossible to convert to full auto?
Never seemed to hurt those sales.
Glock, like any other corporation, exists to make money. These decisions are not made in a vacuum. Once we have all the details, I think most will agree it was smart.
The good thing is that we have choices.
Annihilator
Hellion
I bet you if Gaston was still around, this crap wouldn’t be going on…
They released what is basically an engineering prototype for Gen 6 features in a bone-stock Gen 5 chassis. Gen 5s couldn’t take Switches as-is anyway, but they made a knee-jerk reaction to what California did. They just showed California that the industry can be bullied. Glock should have sued California instead and released the Gen 6 in due time, and it wouldn’t have been a problem with those changes made. Also, Colt no longer uses large pins because of the pressure from the rest of the industry.
The poor man is rolling in his grave. Katherin was a very poor successor to him.
Lab4Us
Custom
With all the firearms nonsense in California, I just add Glock to the list. And I do agree that the never ending litigation from the far left gun grabbers would have eventually bankrupted Glock anyway.
For a company that was already on Gen 5 versions, with incremental changes from 1 through 5, a Gen 6, now to be known as V, doesn’t seem a leap. If I was still enamored by Glock, I’m sure I’d try a couple.
As a former Glock owner who spent countless hours seeking holsters that would fit my Gen 5 G23 and G27, I pity the folks who will have to find all new support gear for their shiny new “V” model Glock. To this day there are holster makers who advertise their holsters will NOT fit Gen 5 versions of the G23 or G27 - but at least they tell you. Unfortunately there are still some holster makers who still don’t understand there is a size difference between Gen 4 and Gen 5 G23s and G27s.
For a company that was already on Gen 5 versions, with incremental changes from 1 through 5, a Gen 6, now to be known as V, doesn’t seem a leap. If I was still enamored by Glock, I’m sure I’d try a couple.
As a former Glock owner who spent countless hours seeking holsters that would fit my Gen 5 G23 and G27, I pity the folks who will have to find all new support gear for their shiny new “V” model Glock. To this day there are holster makers who advertise their holsters will NOT fit Gen 5 versions of the G23 or G27 - but at least they tell you. Unfortunately there are still some holster makers who still don’t understand there is a size difference between Gen 4 and Gen 5 G23s and G27s.
Anchorite
Master Class
It’s a business decision.
A business has to keep selling products. And California is a big client.
There are other choices in that polymer striker-fired market, so we are lucky.
I am not personally in the market for another Glock and frankly the ones I have I couldn’t wear out, so I’m on the side-line, but watching with interest to see what transpires.
A business has to keep selling products. And California is a big client.
There are other choices in that polymer striker-fired market, so we are lucky.
I am not personally in the market for another Glock and frankly the ones I have I couldn’t wear out, so I’m on the side-line, but watching with interest to see what transpires.
BassCliff
Hellcat
Hi,
This California escapee would like to welcome you to the forum. I now reside in the Wild Wild Upper Midwest where it's a bit too purple for my taste but we're trying to hang on to our freedoms.
But tell us how you really feel.
It's always easier to go after law abiding citizens, restrict their rights, take away choices, impose taxes and fees, litigate, etc, than it is to actually enforce the law against criminals. Glock is the latest victim.
I have one Glock in my one-of-each collection. I hope you don't mind that Glocks get a bit of good-natured ribbing around here. I enjoy my G17L. Good to have you here. Are you still in CA?
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
This California escapee would like to welcome you to the forum. I now reside in the Wild Wild Upper Midwest where it's a bit too purple for my taste but we're trying to hang on to our freedoms.
But tell us how you really feel.
It's always easier to go after law abiding citizens, restrict their rights, take away choices, impose taxes and fees, litigate, etc, than it is to actually enforce the law against criminals. Glock is the latest victim.
I have one Glock in my one-of-each collection. I hope you don't mind that Glocks get a bit of good-natured ribbing around here. I enjoy my G17L. Good to have you here. Are you still in CA?
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
TurboDog910
Master Class
Looking at prices now on GB I wondering if I should unload the majority of my collection?
Gen1-5 , 2 very nice early 19, a mk27 mod 1, Mariner, and several Lipseys exclusive gen 4.
I prob have 30 Glocks. The newer one have not even been shot.
Thought?
Gen1-5 , 2 very nice early 19, a mk27 mod 1, Mariner, and several Lipseys exclusive gen 4.
I prob have 30 Glocks. The newer one have not even been shot.
Thought?
Annihilator
Hellion
To many out there, doubt you will unload them at a good price, I thought the same, but I’ll keep mine for now, If you do decide, good luck!
HayesGreener
Ronin
Meh, Glock is just a passing fad
TurboDog910
Master Class
Gen 5 20 are going for 800+
Gen 5 29 very difficult to find even higher.
Seen some auctions bidding up on old gen 3 26s. It appears to be a few models that are going higher.
Musashi
Professional
Innovation can be a good thing in an effort to remain relevant and profitable. Often these days, decison makers are driven by expediency, ignorant of the company culture and the needs of their clientele. IMJ Glock peaked at Gen 3. Time will tell.
Engineering changes aren't typically a knee-jerk reaction; they're planned well in advance. Though the V models are a bridge to Gen6, they've probably been in the works well before the California travesty, as I'm sure Glock was well aware of the switch issue long before it became legislation. Adapt or die...
Edit:I own a 45 and a 19, looking to add a few more, but probably not until they work the gen V bugs out, if there are any.
Edit:I own a 45 and a 19, looking to add a few more, but probably not until they work the gen V bugs out, if there are any.
Anchorite
Master Class
All mine are G.3. The one thing that the G.5 has going for it are the barrels. Reports from respectable sources are that accuracy is quite good compared to earlier iterations.
This is definitely based on engineering test designs for the Gen 6 fire control and slide without the modularity based on the public patent info. Gen 6 will streamline quite a bit.