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Kuna Competition? Meet the Taurus RPC 9mm PDW

Well I own a 10mm Stribog and I am thinking about getting a 9mm version. Or the Kuna
And the Stribog might not have folding sites, it does have some tiny backup sites.

I am not likely to give that much money for a Tarass.
Would almost consider it if they took a magazine someone else made that's going to be available.
Right now I only own a 327 revolver, tx22 and TH10 10mm
The Th10 is not good.
I am hoping it will break in and I can locate what ever blistered my trigger finger.
The tx22 is a wonderful little contraption.

Lgs sends more Tarasses in for warranty then any other brand.
It's what they say and not my words.
 
meistermash said:
Lgs sends more Tarasses in for warranty then any other brand.
It's what they say and not my words.
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I have seen the same comment many times. Another poster recently commented that they had some Taurus firearms, and suggested that complaints about Taurus were not valid and were only parroted from internet folklore. I do know that can happen. And I do know that I was really impressed with my early gen 1 TX22. BUT, there were MANY reports of excessive barrel leading, and poor accuracy related to that. With that said, I have had friends and family, over many years, with Taurus handguns. Some were happy, some admitted they were what they were, which wasn't all that great. Having shot my share, I personally never felt compelled to buy one. Until... the TX22 came out. I took the gamble because it was cheap, and I read a LOT of great reviews (aside from the known rifling problems on some examples), and I took educated steps to eliminate the most common complaint...

It was widely reported that some examples were fine, and others had very rough, poorly done rifling in their barrels, leading to excessive leading at low round counts. I took a light with me to the store and had the clerk pull several guns from their store room. I rejected two, before finding one that was acceptable. I can't say if that was two out of ten, or two out of ten thousand examples that had poor rifling. My point is that it is/was a QC issue.

I'm not going to imply that Taurus can't build good guns. But, years of evidence points to them having subpar quality control. That means that sure, you may buy a good one, and then again, you may buy a bad one. It's just a crap shoot... And I'm sure that if available publicly, Taurus's own warranty claim data would show their failure rate of their various models. Maybe its 2%, maybe it's 10%, maybe it's 18.578%, who knows?

It's just part of manufacturing... High levels of QC cost money! And there are manufacturers of all sorts of goods, often on the budget end of the market, that save money there and find it more cost effective to repair the failed examples that come back, than it is to spend more up front to minimize those failures during manufacturing. A lot of Taurus buyers aren't really "gun people". And a lot of those buyers really don't shoot their guns much, if at all. And that means that a LOT of low QC firearms get by because the owners never test the guns enough to know they're subpar. Those that do, are either good examples, or Taurus covers them under warranty, saving a lot of production cost on QC. All of the stories about gun stores having larger numbers of warranty claims with Taurus than other manufacturers tends to illustrate all of this.

Is Taurus making strides in better QC? IDK. They seemingly have been with some of their newer guns. At least from what I've read. And that's why I said earlier in this thread that I would keep an open mind and let the product speak for itself once they had been in consumer hands long enough for the truth to be found...
 
I have owned Taurusessss and continue to own a PT92 (Beretta 92 clone-esque). Im not saying Taurus guns are bad per se; just that they arent Tier One. I can accept less than Tier One items but they must be priced accordingly.

This gun may be great but its always gonna be Hyundai great
 
I have seen more failures with Taurus handguns on my range than other brands combined. So many that I banned them from my state license courses. Some folks like them, but they have a loooooong way to go in my book for me to ever trust one for defensive purposes. Maybe they are upping their game, we'll see.
 
meistermash said:
Well I own a 10mm Stribog and I am thinking about getting a 9mm version. Or the Kuna
And the Stribog might not have folding sites, it does have some tiny backup sites.

I am not likely to give that much money for a Tarass.
Would almost consider it if they took a magazine someone else made that's going to be available.
Right now I only own a 327 revolver, tx22 and TH10 10mm
The Th10 is not good.
I am hoping it will break in and I can locate what ever blistered my trigger finger.
The tx22 is a wonderful little contraption.

Lgs sends more Tarasses in for warranty then any other brand.
It's what they say and not my words.
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Just saying, not doubting you what’s so ever, if you think, this could be just a marketing thing from the shop to get customers to buy a more expensive firearm…..my one shop can’t keep the GX4 line is stock, and has had few problems with that line, don’t know about the other G series line.
 
PieterCoetzee said:
GX4s DO sell well but Im suggesting that is because they are priced right (in the $250 range) and that is what makes the difference.
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I paid more then that for my GX4 Carry though, but different strokes for different folks, most of my defensive pistols are Glock, but the GX4 compact fits me better, it has over 300 rounds though it. No matter what firearm you like/use, others will always say negative things, Glocks, Hi-point, Taurus, and Ruger, some just don’t like said brands, even if they have no experience with them, I remember Bassbob questioning me on why I carried a Ruger Max 9, that was a great gun, brother wanted it so I sold it to him.
 
Theres a certain point where guns are like watches. They all tell time, most tell time well. Some of the most expensive dont tell time as well as lesser expensive ones BUT some buyers dont buy watches for time keeping, we buy them because we like them.........and its cool to say this was the watch worn in ___X___ movie or by ___X___ person.

Just like youll never loose money of a COLT, youll never loose money on a Rolex, assuming youve got someone to make the house payment for a couple months
 
Just caught a video from TFTB shot at NRAAM 2026 in Houston. It wasn't a review, but rather a short discussion with a Taurus rep. The rep indicated that, while the MSRP was as we've already discussed here, that the street price would be much lower. He said that they already had dealers doing preorders at a price of $750. If they're already selling at that on preorder, I would guess that once they've been out a while, some of my local dealers that sell for VERY good cash prices, will probably be down to a price that many commenters have been clamoring for... Now, and even though I'm not a Taurus fan, and I'm not so sure about the whole "swapping out parts" to get it to run suppressed, I must admit that my curiosity IS piqued enough to continue watching for future developments as these guns begin to hit the market and see more real world use... I could see, at a $700 price point, this could perhaps be a fun toy. And they will likely sell pretty well. I mean, it won't replace my Scorpion or Kuna, but... A roller delayed PDW with a decent feature set, at $700, just MIGHT be interesting after all... Yeah, it's still a Hyundai, but I do see a lot of Hyundais on the road, so there is that...
 
Imaposer said:
Just caught a video from TFTB shot at NRAAM 2026 in Houston. It wasn't a review, but rather a short discussion with a Taurus rep. The rep indicated that, while the MSRP was as we've already discussed here, that the street price would be much lower. He said that they already had dealers doing preorders at a price of $750. If they're already selling at that on preorder, I would guess that once they've been out a while, some of my local dealers that sell for VERY good cash prices, they will probably be down to a price that many commenters have been clamoring for... Now, and even though I'm not a Taurus fan, and I'm not so sure about the whole "swapping out parts" to get it to run suppressed, I must admit that my curiosity IS piqued enough to continue watching for future developments as these guns begin to hit the market and see more real world use... I could see, at a $700 price point, this could perhaps be a fun toy. And they will likely sell pretty well. I mean, it won't replace my Scorpion or Kuna, but... A roller delayed PDW with a decent feature set, at $700, just MIGHT be interesting after all...
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I like the Kuna, but when it first came out, lots of cracked mag issues and bolts coming apart…..but those I think have been very well addressed by Springfield.
 
Annihilator said:
I like the Kuna, but when it first came out, lots of cracked mag issues and bolts coming apart…..but those I think have been very well addressed by Springfield.
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Yeah, I've seen issues with first editions of lots of things, from guns to motorcycles (my other lifelong passion). It's not uncommon for some things to have some initial teething issues, even if the internet often tends to blow things out of proportion and make the issue seem bigger than it really is. Even still, that's why generally, I'm not an early adopter of brand new models of anything... I prefer to give it a little time and give the manufacturer time to address things that show themselves over time. Most reputable manufacturers are pretty proactive in this regard in my experience.
 
Yeah. And I suppose that's just one of the downsides of the roller delay design that they use. With a purely mechanical system it's kinda hard to have your cake and eat it too I guess. I know that the MP5 system supposedly is the softest shooting. Whereas the Kuna kinda splits the difference between mitigating recoil, but still not being too sensitive to pressure changes. Even still, it's not optimal for my particular preferences as for my normal uses, the flexibility of maintaining reliable function trumps that little bit more recoil mitigation, but less forgiving operation, that a different system provides. I really like the fact that my Kuna is softer shooting than my Scorpion, and yet doesn't appear to be sensitive to ammo or running suppressed. But, that's a personal choice thing rather than a strict pro/con.

And I suppose that IF the RPC has the same recoil impulse of the MP5, while having more modern ergonomics and features, like LRBHO, full length picatinny rail, etc, AND comes in in the $700ish price range, it just might be something. I just haven't seen any reviews yet that really does much other than a very cursory introduction of the gun. I'd like to see a more detailed breakdown of its design, as well as some head to head comparisons with other PCC/PDWs on the market.

The rep in the video didn't give an exact price but did make a comment that mags would be under $30. After purchasing my Kuna I ordered 8 additional mags direct from Springfield. They were $25 each, and I used a 10% off coupon I received when I registered my warranty for the gun. Both guns come with two mags in the box.

I will remain open minded. And if the gun proves itself over time, who knows? If I run into a screaming deal I may decide to pick one up. Not to replace my others, but just to have yet another toy I really don't "need"... Looking forward to more reviews. Particularly from actual OWNERS rather than guntubers...
 
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