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Lets see your Fighting Shotguns

I mentioned the 1100, but it is not my choice. I know, I know. I am old. But I have a brace of Winchester 97's cut to twenty inches. Takedown, so they fit in my luggage and can easily be re-assembled at the Hotel when traveling. Slicked up by Floyd Wine, sadly passed, a gunsmith for Brownells. The slam fire makes these things into a firehose of lead if one is so inclined. I also have a shortened Model 12. Long experience with the Winchester pumps makes them second nature to me.
 
The one gun I don’t get excited about is a shotgun.
My bird hunting guns are fine specimens, but for HD or range time, I just don’t go for a shotgun. The Beretta and Benelli tacticals have caught my eye for 20 yrs as they look awesome, but at the end of the day, I just get another pistol or rifle. Maybe one day I’ll get one.
What I would buy in a nanosecond is a SPAS12, it I’m not dropping $4000+ on a shotgun
 
The slam fire makes these things into a firehose of lead
Hmmm? I used to think that way too but its still slower than a good semi (1300, M4) and less accurate.

Ive got more (tactical) time on a 870 than any other shotgun and I own several but they are outclassed as fighting shotguns next to a Beretta 1300 and maybe even a trimmed Saiga/AK style
 
I had an 1187 Police version but got rid of it when Remington went under since support was going away.

Got store credit + more to get the M4.
 
I had my Remington 11 (A-5) out a day or two ago and took a couple of pictures.
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It’s on reserve status now, but it got some use. I used it in at least a few 3-gun matches and a Gunsite shotgun class.
 
Please tell me about that gun. I've never seen one before. Is it a modified A-5?
It’s a Remington Model 11, which is basically an A-5. For a time, Remington held the US license while FN held the European license.
I bought it from a guy in a shotgun class for something like $160. It had been reblued and had three holes poorly drilled and tapped in the left side of the receiver.

Those holes turned out to match the hole pattern of a Williams peep sight that fits the Rem M11 and the M8 and 81 rifles. Well, two of the threaded holes matched. The third was drilled crooked.

I had the barrel shortened and a front sight silver soldered on. That front sight departed under recoil, so I went to the banded type it has now for more silver solder contact area.

The Rem 11 magazine tube cap has the same threads as the 870/1100/11-87 so it was easy to get a tube extension. Using angle steel, I made a spacer to go between the cap and the forend that mounts a light and has a slot for sling attachment.
The rear sling point is a footman loop from the hardware store.

It got all new springs. Aside from that, the only mechanical change I made was to replace the early-type carrier with a later style A-5 two-piece carrier so it will “speed load”. That has dropped the jaws of some who’ve never seen it before. The old style carrier required pushing the button to load each shell. What an improvement.

I think that’s about it. There’s a patch of Velcro on the LH side of the receiver for a sidesaddle but I can’t remember the last time it’s been on there.
 
It’s a Remington Model 11, which is basically an A-5. For a time, Remington held the US license while FN held the European license.
I bought it from a guy in a shotgun class for something like $160. It had been reblued and had three holes poorly drilled and tapped in the left side of the receiver.

Those holes turned out to match the hole pattern of a Williams peep sight that fits the Rem M11 and the M8 and 81 rifles. Well, two of the threaded holes matched. The third was drilled crooked.

I had the barrel shortened and a front sight silver soldered on. That front sight departed under recoil, so I went to the banded type it has now for more silver solder contact area.

The Rem 11 magazine tube cap has the same threads as the 870/1100/11-87 so it was easy to get a tube extension. Using angle steel, I made a spacer to go between the cap and the forend that mounts a light and has a slot for sling attachment.
The rear sling point is a footman loop from the hardware store.

It got all new springs. Aside from that, the only mechanical change I made was to replace the early-type carrier with a later style A-5 two-piece carrier so it will “speed load”. That has dropped the jaws of some who’ve never seen it before. The old style carrier required pushing the button to load each shell. What an improvement.

I think that’s about it. There’s a patch of Velcro on the LH side of the receiver for a sidesaddle but I can’t remember the last time it’s been on there.
Amazing work! That thing is bad *** awesome. Thanks. 😲
 
All of which are sturdy and significant pieces of solid milled steel. Even the springs are made of thick steel.

None are stampings, and certainly none are… sigh… O-rings. >spit<
I’ve got 2 old Al’s. My Dad’s Sweet 16 from 1946 and my light 20 Dad bought me 63 years ago. I can’t conceive of the thousands of rounds through Dad’s-he was an avid bird hunter (quail and pheasant) and deer hunter. Mine has ate several thousand as well. Neither has EVER had a failure or required ANY part replacement. Around the house are a 1301 Beretta Tactical and a Maverick 88 for the camper. I doubt either would last as long and be as reliable long term as the old humpbacks.
 
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Several would be just fine , notably including M500 200ga 20in .

But particularily nice , is certain era of M1300 slug gun .

The " rifle sights " are far superior to those on Remington or Mossberg . Particularly of note is the era with Winchoke .

Intended for a rifled tube for slug use , * to me * , it's ideal for a buckshot speciality tube , for tight patterns . Yeah , l like tight Buckshot patterns , even for close in .

The M1200/ 1300 is underrated for being a strong smooth action . And l'm tall enough , with long arms , and 22in bbl vs 18-20 in doesn't bother me .
 
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