Onewolf426
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A Supreme Court case over whether marijuana users can own guns is creating unusual alliances
Should marijuana users be able to own guns.
Marijuana use and 2nd Amendment case before Supreme Court
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Blackfeather
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The Highest court in the land.
I wouldn’t look an any major change other them they might not ask since that whole MJ question could be a 5th amendment issue.
That said People who use gummies and MJ and firearms isn’t an issue.
What they should look at is the amount of people on Physcotropic drugs and firearms……like you know the link with a lot of people who shoot up places!
That said People who use gummies and MJ and firearms isn’t an issue.
What they should look at is the amount of people on Physcotropic drugs and firearms……like you know the link with a lot of people who shoot up places!
PieterCoetzee
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Hmmm legalized recreational Marijuana? Whats next legalized recreational LSD? Maybe PCP?
last2brake
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Do medicinal users who are sick drive better than other users who might be healthy ?
Is there another difference I don't know about ?
Is there another difference I don't know about ?
PieterCoetzee
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OK maybe what youre not seeing is its not something that would necessarily be included in a test OR released if discovered. Maybe youre also not seeing the rising numbers of DWI thats marijuana related? Maybe youre just not seeing because youve made up your mind because I have seen it.Yeah. I see lots of shootings around me by people high on weed. It's an epidemic.
What you should be asking is why is it so important that it be legalized?
PieterCoetzee
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The difference is what its being used for.... Its a medical crutch, too easily prescribed as a fix all for everything from anxiety to eating disorders. The difference is theres ZERO standards for strength, purity, manufacture, production, storage and and and; but of course we can trust the growers, packagers, sellers, because drug dealers never want to mess with the product....
WellArmed
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I don't have an issue about what others choose to do with their bodies that isn't affecting my constitutional rights.
WellArmed
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Then those who are senior citizens, are on over-the-counter and prescription drugs, are sleep deprived, sick, etc should be banned from driving else be jailed. It's like aunties hating guns, so they are less outraged if the same number of people were killed with a knife, car, or anything else other than a gun. Likewise, the anti marijuana crowd are against smoking a plant flower, but they're less outrage if someone is under the influence of working a 12 hour shift, prescription drugs, old age, etc... The end results are the same, but whether one is hypocritically outraged or fiercely opposes something depends on more on their person option of that item vs outcomes.
What I see is a bunch of propaganda. Alcohol and cellphones seems to be the biggest problem when it comes auto accidents and fatalities, not marijuana. Maybe all cellphones should be banned or cellphones need to be locked up while driving up similar to a firearm in a ban state. If someone is driving recklessly or is breaking traffic laws, then they should be held accountable and charged for whatever laws they broke.
That's just the same slippery slope argument anties use to enact gun control on all Americans. They use the same flawed logic that everyone should be banned from owning or doing something under penalty of law just because a few did something wrong.
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last2brake
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So, you aren't concerned with any difference in driving. You're just concerned with what it's addressing. The impairment isn't important to you....just the reason ?
You could rest assured, your local dealer isn't cutting his buds with fentanyl because marijuana seeds get stuck in the needle.
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PieterCoetzee
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Alcohol and cellphones are the cause of a lot of collisions, no argument there, the same for fatigued drivers and some meds (Rx and OTC); but what goes mostly unnoticed are the increased numbers of THC related collisions in states that have decriminalized marijuana.
Its partially the significant added difficulty of prosecuting drugged driving, especially when alcohol is also involved. An alcohol DWI is pretty straight forward all the more so if the driver refuses a breath test and certainly if the driver submits to a breathalizer, where 0.08 is defacto intoxicated. I have had alcohol arrests, from arrest to process in an hour (add 30 minutes for a breath test). Now add 2 hours minimum to go from a 0.0 breath text to a DRE (drug recognition expert) exam and then a blood test AND then waiting for the results to charge later. SO anytime an intoxicated driver shows enough alcohol to get a conviction no drug testing is done OR prosecuted
You wanna get high, you wanna smoke something somebody named "sputtie" promised was good sh*t, you believe him when he says it pure and not dipped in embalming fluid or sprinkled with PCP, go ahead or maybe you could just drink something "tickle" made in the still that Im sure is food grade and clean
last2brake
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Studies show that using a cellphone impairs a driver as much as driving while legally drunk.
But EVERYBODY is on their phones while driving. Why aren"t there any penalties or enforcement for that ?
Follow the money. DUI arrests are lucrative, and many drivers aren't aware that they're at the legal limit.
But everybody who's on their phone knows FOR SURE that they're on their phone, but it's ignored because, well, look who does it...and it's socially acceptable
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Talyn
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"Modern" pot (smoked and/or vaped) is much more potent than that from the "Cheech & Chong" Days, and is addictive and is known to cause psychosis.
I don't have an issue with folks using it "within" their home, as long as they're not polluting the air we commonly breath, and not operating anything dangerous while "under-the-influence", and the latter also applies to those drinking alcohol.
I don't go anywhere near those using/playing with firearms when they're "high" or drunk.
And IMO if you're an habitual user of pot you're an addict, as well if you're a drunk, and I have no time for those folks.
My .02
I don't have an issue with folks using it "within" their home, as long as they're not polluting the air we commonly breath, and not operating anything dangerous while "under-the-influence", and the latter also applies to those drinking alcohol.
I don't go anywhere near those using/playing with firearms when they're "high" or drunk.
And IMO if you're an habitual user of pot you're an addict, as well if you're a drunk, and I have no time for those folks.
My .02
PieterCoetzee
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Huh? Where do you live? There ARE laws against it. Did you NOT know that or did you just want to argue.
REALLY? Is that the story you wanna stick with, "theyre drunk and they dont know theyre drunk"? Is that what youre saying? Cuz thats sounds like what a ______ would say.
When I was a cop one of the Field Sobriety Tests I would do was to ask the drive to say the letters between D to K. When I testified I would always write D and K on the blackboard and tell the judge/jury I used those letters because if the driver couldnt say the letters between D and K, he was D R U N K.....