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mentally ill man released on bail

Old_Me

Old_Me

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ok, some time ago, some mentally ill guy, in my state.......was standing on a street corner.

pointing a fake gun, at himself, and others.

cops arrived, numbnutz points the gun at the cops, and cop shoots him in the shoulder.

it was said the guy IS MENTALLY ...........

and the judge releases him on bail

you cannot make this up.

"According to his mother, Yidana is mentally disabled and has struggled with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder for more than a decade.
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Yidana’s bail was set at $10,000 personal recognizance with the condition that he undergo mental health monitoring. He left court with his mother, who told 12 News her son is “doing good.”

His attorney offered no comment outside court.

Yidana also pleaded not guilty to misdemeanor charges of simple assault and/or battery, vandalism, and disorderly conduct from a separate case dating back to February.

He’s due back in court later this month for a pretrial conference in that case, then again in December for the charges related to the June shooting.'
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and the "gun grabbing" from us LEGAL gun owners...continues....


 
I had my own experience with a county sheriff after my car broke down at a stop sign. I am a CC permit holder in Illinois and all I’ll say that I was more calm than the sheriff when I got help.
 
Old_Me said:
ok, some time ago, some mentally ill guy, in my state.......was standing on a street corner.

pointing a fake gun, at himself, and others.

cops arrived, numbnutz points the gun at the cops, and cop shoots him in the shoulder.

it was said the guy IS MENTALLY ...........

and the judge releases him on bail

you cannot make this up.
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Mentally ill or not, he has the same 8th Amendment Right as you or me. Past that, does the state do mental health evaluations of people like this when in state custody? If he isnt a danger to himself or others at the time that his release is pending, why should he be held? Maybe it was a medication issue, under and over-medicated creates temporary issues.
 
Recusant said:
Sounds like maybe the police officers in that department need more range time!
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True, a more accurate shot would have solved that particular problem.. seriously though, why in the world are people in that shape, a risk to themselves and others, running around loose. If it had been a real gun does anybody think it would have been handled by him any differently? Most of those currently sleeping under a bridge would be in an institution for their own protection if it wasn’t for the leftist agenda. They’ve solved mental illness the same way they’re solving crime-pretend it doesn’t exist and everything’s fine.
 
His mom said he is mentally ill. Sorry, if I was the judge or the PD I want to see the medical records. Too much speculation especially in cases of mental issues. Cops or the public encountering someone waving a firearm around aren't mind readers.
 
Cedric said:
His mom said he is mentally ill. Sorry, if I was the judge or the PD I want to see the medical records. Too much speculation especially in cases of mental issues. Cops or the public encountering someone waving a firearm around aren't mind readers.
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which ticked me off as i was watching the news, when it was said the judge released him..

and further, would anyone really hesitate to shoot him, if he pointed the gun at any of us..??

no one has time to ask questions, when faced with possible harm or death pointed at you.
 
SteveInConverse said:
Why? So instead of wounding the mentally ill guy with a toy rifle, the officer can kill him and have to live with that? This was a good outcome, all things considered. Law enforcement are trained "to stop the threat", not to kill per se. Was the guy stopped? Yep.
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Yes, I agree. If the person who called 911 had stated the guy had a toy gun and that info was passed on to the responding officer then there would be lots of questions to answer. Law enforcenement are trained to stop the threat, but not many are trained to determine what's fake and what's real in a split second, unfortantly. Hesitation has caused many an officier to lose his or her life. It's a fine line between go and no go that's hard to second guess.
 
Old_Me said:
which ticked me off as i was watching the news, when it was said the judge released him..

and further, would anyone really hesitate to shoot him, if he pointed the gun at any of us..??

no one has time to ask questions, when faced with possible harm or death pointed at you.
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I do agree. Air soft pistols look identical to a real one anyway. I could go into a rant about why he wasn’t watched over more carefully and all that jazz.
 
SteveInConverse said:
Mentally ill or not, he has the same 8th Amendment Right as you or me. Past that, does the state do mental health evaluations of people like this when in state custody? If he isnt a danger to himself or others at the time that his release is pending, why should he be held? Maybe it was a medication issue, under and over-medicated creates temporary issues.
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The short answer is yes, there are mental evaluations available. The longer and far more complicated answer is, it depends.

Someone has to represent him to ask the judge to order one, then you have to hope it actually gets done.

Law enforcement and mental health don’t mix well. There is a lack of funding and training for such examinations and the citizen accused can’t be locked up awaiting an evaluation that may take months. So what do you do? You let him (or her) bond out and remain on bond and hope they’re evaluated.
 
If it was me put in that situation I also would have shot the guy. Sorry at that point there is no time to see if gun is real or fake. No amount of training would have helped at that point.
 
Anchorite said:
citizen accused can’t be locked up awaiting an evaluation that may take months.
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Huh, that's funny. Some segments of society have no qualms about taking other civil rights way at the drop of a hat. Say red flag laws and jab mandates I.E. Guess it all depends on whose ox is getting gored.
 
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