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More magazine capacity

Belt Fed said:
I fit that description unfortunately. 😥
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I may have said you can never have too much ammo loaded, well maybe i was bit wrong. it reminded me of some dude that said if you don't have at least 200 30 round mags loaded you're not ready. Think i said dude, that's 5000 rounds. if you are facing that many enemies then you ain't got a chance anyway. lol he was always telling newbies they needed that many loaded. someone did ask him to prove he had that many mags loaded and he did. he had a footlocker lined up with them.
 
Anchorite said:
More magazine capacity is never a bad thing …. Unless your in water over your head or on fire.

Disclaimer: I’ve never been on fire, in the water with gun and ammo over my head or even been in a gunfight. However, I have given a lot of thought to the topic.

Capacity gives me options.

That said, let’s all be honest. It is not about shooting more. It is about manipulating less.

If I have a 1911 and I have shot 3-4 rounds and there is a pause in the engagement I’m in, I am likely going to be thinking about how many shots did I get off and should I be reloading? That puts me out of the fight and breaks any concentration I have.

OTOH, If I am running a gun that has an 15+ round capacity then after 3-5 shots I am not too worried about it and I can focus on important things like finding an exit or continuing the fight if the threat or threats have not been effectively dealt with.

There is no optimal equipment for every scenario. Pick your load out based on what you are most likely going to encounter or expect to engage with.

Let’s all stay safe out there and keep your head on a swivel.
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If I get a pause in the action my Chicken*** is making vacate maneuvers
 
Eh. Depends on your "fight philosophy."
Do you intend to gunfight or break contact. Big difference on what you'll prepare for. For gunfighting, you cant have enough ammo, while breaking contact one loaded mag and maybe a back up is enough.

What I mean by those terms is: gunfight, well until one of you drops, and breaking contact forcing the other to flee the scene - main goal is to "chase off" the perp. Not that you'll intentionally miss, but it will happen. And your mission set whatever you choose will dictate your load out. You're not going to try to get into an extended firefight with a 45 and one extra 8rd mag. For context, my micro 9 Hellcat 13+1 nearly the same round count in one mag.

Finally, the whole "plan to miss" argument is really unrealistic. How many of you have been in situations where the bad guy is shooting back. I think it's pretty safe to say that none of us will give Jerry Miculek a run for his money? How many of you have trained for years in a Teir 1 element or higher. Face it, under high duress, the factor of missed shots is a reality.

Case in point, not too long ago a person decided to take out his day on me in the form of road rage. When I actively tried to de-escalate the problem to the point of pulling over to the side of the road to let him pass and go on with his day, he pulled over as well and was going to wait me out. Seeing this that's when the trusty cordless hole puncher was pulled out, and knowing that one was not in the pipe, racked the pistol. Him being in a truck and being able to see into my car saw this and then decided that his poor life choices were going to momentarily stop for that day.

But the first thing in going through my mind was not "I'm hitting his off button," because I know there's kids in the corner house and there's a convenience store close by with non-combatants in it just trying to get their items and gas for the week or day. There's a school and daycare a couple hundred yards away from the corner I was at. You may hit all of your shots, however, can you guarantee that that guy will do the same, which unfortunately, means a bad day for you as well.

In no way am I saying tuck tail. I'm saying that there are elements and consequences that are outside the initial confrontation and as we all know, "a jury of your peers," actually means you're guaranteed a few retards will look you the victim that "won" the encounter as the guilty party because: still alive; ex-breather not armed with a firearm; or a weapon that wasn't seen to be a "threat" in relation to what you chose to carry, ie. he's armed with a 22 revolver and you're armed with a 45 with some edgy named bullets like "Widowmaker," or something implied like "The One Stopper." (fictional round names but you get the idea). This can and most likely will be a tick against you if you get some progressive assistant DA looking to run for mayor.

I developed a personal rule which supersedes all gun safety rules. "When you exercise your 2A right, you lose the right to be emotional and or lose your temper." However, please don't take this as some sort of "I'm better than you," opinion. I absolutely am not.

I hope you all live in peace and good health.
 
LoneGunman said:
Eh. Depends on your "fight philosophy."
Do you intend to gunfight or break contact. Big difference on what you'll prepare for. For gunfighting, you cant have enough ammo, while breaking contact one loaded mag and maybe a back up is enough.

What I mean by those terms is: gunfight, well until one of you drops, and breaking contact forcing the other to flee the scene - main goal is to "chase off" the perp. Not that you'll intentionally miss, but it will happen. And your mission set whatever you choose will dictate your load out. You're not going to try to get into an extended firefight with a 45 and one extra 8rd mag. For context, my micro 9 Hellcat 13+1 nearly the same round count in one mag.

Finally, the whole "plan to miss" argument is really unrealistic. How many of you have been in situations where the bad guy is shooting back. I think it's pretty safe to say that none of us will give Jerry Miculek a run for his money? How many of you have trained for years in a Teir 1 element or higher. Face it, under high duress, the factor of missed shots is a reality.

Case in point, not too long ago a person decided to take out his day on me in the form of road rage. When I actively tried to de-escalate the problem to the point of pulling over to the side of the road to let him pass and go on with his day, he pulled over as well and was going to wait me out. Seeing this that's when the trusty cordless hole puncher was pulled out, and knowing that one was not in the pipe, racked the pistol. Him being in a truck and being able to see into my car saw this and then decided that his poor life choices were going to momentarily stop for that day.

But the first thing in going through my mind was not "I'm hitting his off button," because I know there's kids in the corner house and there's a convenience store close by with non-combatants in it just trying to get their items and gas for the week or day. There's a school and daycare a couple hundred yards away from the corner I was at. You may hit all of your shots, however, can you guarantee that that guy will do the same, which unfortunately, means a bad day for you as well.

In no way am I saying tuck tail. I'm saying that there are elements and consequences that are outside the initial confrontation and as we all know, "a jury of your peers," actually means you're guaranteed a few retards will look you the victim that "won" the encounter as the guilty party because: still alive; ex-breather not armed with a firearm; or a weapon that wasn't seen to be a "threat" in relation to what you chose to carry, ie. he's armed with a 22 revolver and you're armed with a 45 with some edgy named bullets like "Widowmaker," or something implied like "The One Stopper." (fictional round names but you get the idea). This can and most likely will be a tick against you if you get some progressive assistant DA looking to run for mayor.

I developed a personal rule which supersedes all gun safety rules. "When you exercise your 2A right, you lose the right to be emotional and or lose your temper." However, please don't take this as some sort of "I'm better than you," opinion. I absolutely am not.

I hope you all live in peace and good health.
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I've witnessed thieves trying to steal my tires off my truck. didnt come wielding a gun at them. shootout isnt worth my tires or a round into the neighbors bedroom across the street. I banged on my window and flicked the outside lights. sent them off.
I've had a road rage when a man came up the on ramp and straight across 3 lanes and about side swiped my vehicle not paying attention. laid on the horn and that person got road rage galore trying to ram me and force me to stop. wife called 911. I was armed, but had the entire family in the car. not getting into a gun battle if I can help it with 2 kids in the back seat. I maneuvered from 20 mph to 95 mph to avoid this person. it was 10 minute affair. all traffic stayed back and a good Samaritan in a massive dump truck tried to stop this person. state troopers showed up in force to handle the situation. 911 dispatch operator told us to continue 2 exits down to meet a trooper to give a statement. police said they had about 20 callers and 5 callers stated the person came up the ramp and about rammed me. my gun in hand, but never raised. have to know a time and place. let me tell you, I wanted to plug this dude when he had me down to 20mph, but not worth shooting around my wife or into a person that had not shown a firearm.

I've had another hunter confront me on a friend's private land that I was hunting his territory. my friend informed me no one is allowed on his property, but neighbors and he think there is a trespasser/poacher around and just an FYI. well, I came across him walking out from my stand at dusk. he was armed. rifle slung across his back. I was armed. Rifle slung over my shoulder as well plus pistol on my hip. asked him what he was doing on this area of land. 500 acres btw.
I just said I think he is wrong, but I'll leave him be and good luck. walked away with an eye on him whole time. promptly called the Sherriff and then my buddy. not about to get into a close gun battle with someone out in woods not knowing if help could/would arrive or find me if I had been shot. Sherriff and GW got him later in the week. sometimes the best course of action is avoiding conflict.

I was ready and willing each time, but the situation dictates the employment of a weapon.
 
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