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More Taxpayers bailing out student debt

up to ~$400 billion now.

Nothing more American than racking up debt on a worthless degree and having someone else pay for it. After the Fanny and Freddie housing train wreck the writing was on the wall that gov backed student debt was next….. Ignoring the Supreme Court and DT is a threat to democracy?
 
up to ~$400 billion now.

That must be his "eclipse cure"--sacrificing nearly half a trillion dollars. :oops:

I prefer the way the Ancient Tribes did it--they'd throw the leader into a volcano to make the Sky Dragon stop eating the sun. Maybe THAT would work. ;)
 
After working my way through 6 yrs of college which allowed me get out with no debt, I'm super happy (NOT) that I have to bail out the younger generation(s), and the Universities that ramped up their tuition/fees to those students, through higher inflation/COL due to more govt debt. :(

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I’m not for student loan forgiveness, but in the article it calls out one of the options as having been making payments for 20 years. So that would be having graduated and been in repayment since 2004. The average cost of college at that time would be 5-6 thousand for public, meaning for 4 years it would cost 2-25 thousand dollars.

200 dollars a month, for 20 years equals $48,000. Couldn’t find a good number, for average payment it ranged from 200-500.

At 5% interest, 25k would be $26,250. Although I am sure how it compounds comes into play here as well.

It seems weird so many folks would still owe.

The federal government should really be looking into the crazy costs of public colleges and the crappy third party vendors they use that screw people up more then they help them.

One of the bigger issues is the amount of credits required to obtain similar degrees, most the core curriculum has gone unchanged, but the amount of general studies has. Done so to create “well-rounded students” which is a joke. It was done so to get more money. Now a 4-year degree generally takes 5, but longer since often times students opt to switch majors or something which means they need different general credits. Which are usually done in the first 1-2 years and the core taken in the later two. 18-19 years olds don’t always go into college knowing exactly what they want to do.

I don’t see why the federal government isn’t just targeting interest rates on loans and adjusting them. It wouldn’t cost the tax payers themselves and it would help folks pay back their debts.

Average interest rates are anywhere between 5.5 and 8%. But if the goal is provide and education for folks to get higher paying jobs, wouldn’t they also then pay more in taxes, so the government gets more money out of them Later. Why not adjust interest rates down to 1% or something to cover the administrative tasks. And actually get someone to organize the loans who is helpful and understands it so students don’t get screwed by the loan management agencies.
 
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Wrong thread my bad. 😂
Here we go.
I’m sure some will take issue with the source.


02/28/2024•Mises WireConnor O'Keeffe
Ahead of a contentious election this fall, President Joe Biden is frantically working to transfer more tax dollars to college-educated voters. Last week, the White House announced another $1.2 billion in student loan forgiveness, bringing the president’s total in canceled debt to $138 billion.
Biden’s efforts have reignited a long-held debate over student debt and the affordability of college more broadly. Free market advocates are often quick to point out that, due to the distribution of income, tax-funded student debt cancelation represents a forced wealth transfer from poorer, working-class Americans without college degrees to their better-off, frequently white-collar, college-educated counterparts. That’s true.
On top of that, the indiscriminate nature of these forgiveness plans warps the incentive to save money for a big expense like college, rewarding those who borrowed beyond their means at the expense of those who acted prudently.
These are both accurate criticisms of the president’s debt cancelation plans. But it’s important to understand that even if these policies were restructured to better account for the above problems, canceling student loan debt still does nothing to address the deeper cause of the college bubble. In fact, it only stands to make the bubble bigger.
That’s because the true source of the soaring price of college and the absurd level of debt among graduates is the federal government itself.
The federal government has come to effectively control the entire student loan system in the United States. This started in 1965 with the Higher Education Act and escalated with the 1993 Student Loan Reform Act and parts of the 2010 Affordable Care Act.
With that control, Washington has worked to expand lending far beyond what private lenders would offer—all while citing the need to make college more affordable.
The government uses a combination of loan guarantees, where they minimize or eliminate the risk to lenders by forcing taxpayers to cover losses; direct government lending through the Department of Education; and artificially low-interest rates supplied by the Federal Reserve to get loans to students regardless of the risk that they won’t be able to pay them back.
Leading young students into debts they will never get out of is bad enough. But the artificial expansion of student loans also kicks off a painful feedback loop.
More loans mean more demand for college, which means higher prices. Higher prices mean college is less affordable than before. And so more students require loans, which the government helps them acquire—meaning more demand, higher prices, the need for even more loans, and so on.
That is why the price of a college education has shot up in the years since the federal government got involved. And it’s why American graduates now owealmost $2 trillion in student debt. Any proposal that does not first seek to stop this feedback loop is not seriously trying to address this mess.
And make no mistake—Biden, the Democratic Party, and the broader political establishment are not seriously trying to fix the problem. Because the truth is that many of those involved in managing the current situation benefit from this mess.
Obviously, the universities are happy. They’re making more money than they know what to do with. Besides the lavish buildings and resort-level accommodations, colleges have bloated their administrations with diversity officers, sustainability directors, and other ideological positions.
And because the party will come to an end if the government stops inflating this bubble, politicians and federal bureaucrats enjoy an inherent leverage over the intellectuals and scholars that make up the academic wing of the country’s opinion-molding class—something Murray Rothbard and Hans-Hermann Hoppe argue is not just beneficial to the government, but indispensable to its existence.
It’s unreasonable to expect those who benefit from this government-created racket to put an end to it without serious public pressure.”
 
Yup, get that Master’s in Basket Weaving. Don’t worry ‘bout the quarter million debt it costs ya, UncleJeo will take care of it-just be sure to vote his way….
 
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