Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Most Accurate Production Rifle Ever. Period.” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/most-...-springfield-model-2020-waypoint-6-creedmoor/.
Most Accurate Production Rifle Ever. Period.
- Thread starter Mike H.
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$2355! Holy moly. Nice looking rifle but not at that price. I’d like to see a side-by-side with a Ruger American or another less expensive production rifle.
KillerFord1977
Emissary
Opinion article.
Talyn
Emissary
Free rifle article.
Ive read stories on the inter web about the prep that they do with these test rifles. The rifles that go out to folks that do these test are "production rifles" but the test rifle is gone over and made perfect and factory tested before it's pick up for the tests and stories. Its a sales pitch. I'll betcha some fresh deer jerky and corn bread that anyone go's into a store and buys 1 or even 2 of theses here rifles it won't shoot as good as the 1 in the story even with same ammo and conditions.JMHO
not knockin the rifle it is niceeee
not knockin the rifle it is niceeee
Talyn
Emissary
I don't judge the groups on my LR rifles until 200 yds.It is a little pricey but he is shooting some awesome groups at 100 yards. i'd buy those targets if he would sell them.
100 is just for walking out to 200 in the first sight-in., but I know 100 yds is a long shot east of the plain states.
yup your right we don't shoot bow n arrow much farther than that
Roy Huntington
Alpha
Indeed, it is. But then again, it’s what people often want to know … what did someone think about a rifle. Was it accurate, comfortable to shoot, easy to work on, reliable, etc. Thanks for posting! Roy H.
Roy Huntington
Alpha
I know … but then again, we all know what you read on the web is 100 percent factual. I’ve been in the industry for 40 years, editor of American Handgunner and publisher of Guns, American Handgunner and FMG’s consumer publications. I’ve lost track of the number of “perfect” guns sent to me which didn’t function our of the box, broke almost immediately, were missing firing pins (show guns sent to a writer like me), broken grips, lost sights and I even once got a brand new S&W revolver (in the late 1980s) that had no rifling. Trust me … the guns are not cherry picked. I’m amazed at even many custom guns I’ve gotten for articlles had serious issues right out of the box. And they should have been, of all things, hand-worked! But alas … people will either believe it or not. The reason you don’t see trash articles in most magazines and such is because it doesn’t do anyone any good. New guns often have growing pains, so working “with” a maker rather than against them will help them to sort things out. Then you write the article. Roy H.
Roy Huntington
Alpha
It’s interesting when people complain about the cost of guns today. I just checked and $200 in 1973 would buy you a $1600 gun today. And that same $200 in ‘73 would buy you a rifle that shot 2.5” groups at 100 if you were lucky. A custom rifle with the features of this one would be in the $5,000 to $6,000 range. I’ve tested many Ruger American rifles and they all seem to shoot very well. Not like this, but certainly very well for hunting at any range you can hold. However, quality of build comes into the picture too (at least for some of us). One drives a Lexus or Mercedes not because it goes 65 any faster than a Kia, but because it offers a quality of experience the Kia doesn’t. Roy H.$2355! Holy moly. Nice looking rifle but not at that price. I’d like to see a side-by-side with a Ruger American or another less expensive production rifle.
Roy Huntington
Alpha
Ha! If only. I always laugh at comments like this, especially if the poster has no experience in the industry. In all my decades of writing, I’ve gotten a few “free” guns. One Hi-Point .380 comes to mind. A Italian single action some years ago and one or two others usually simply they don’t want to bother sending return labels, etc. They do often offer guns at a discount to the writer, but that’s mostlly because they don’t want to deal with a used “new” gun returned. I’m not saying there are not writers who demand freebies to say positive things about a test gun, but I couldn’t sleep at night if I did that. Credibility is the only thing we have, and those who demand freebies are well known in the industry and are “endured” rather than accomodated. Roy H.
Roy Huntington
Alpha
I hear you, but testing at 100 is common at most ranges open to the public and we all know most deer are killed at that range or less. But either way, if a rifle delivers essentially one hole groups at 100 I’d wager it does well “out there” too. I don’t have a convenient way to shoot further than 100 on my property here so my own testing tends to be at 100. But I’ve shot 100 yard groups here, then went to a friend’s farm some distance from me where I can reach out to 300 and have always found no surprises by rifles that shoot good at 100. Your experience may differ, but doing the actual work is always interesting rather than simply pontificating on the internet. Do the work and show the results. At least in my opion. Roy H.