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Jsimon78 said:
First off I live in one of those liberal run states. I also live in a county that has stood up to the governor saying that what he is doing is wrong and will not in force unconstitutional laws. If we don’t stand up to the liberal agenda that wants to strip us from the tyranny they impose then our constitution is worthless. Also my shirt falls under the 1st amendment.
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I live in Southern Illinois and any time I leave my apartment I have my NRA Patron life cap on.
 
Lucky enough to have retired. Livin on the MS Gulf Coast now. Constitutional carry down here. No permit required. Open or concealed if a resident.
Here on the coast they say "ain't no hell". Up in the delta they say "hell there ain't". 🤫
 
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to-each-their-own....

I am a t-shirt dude and i have only ever changed to a different "style" of shirt for a job or the few of my people things i was invited to and was kind of forced to wear something "appropriate". i had a "gun friendly" t-shirt that got me 1 compliment and nothing else. And my actual life was/is worse than anything that "might" happen when wearing clothes with logos or anything on them....
 
Years ago or a couple of lifetimes.. I had a friend in high school who flew to Ft. Lewis to see his older brother in Washington State. He was wearing a pair of jeans. Those said jeans also had a 1st. Cav patch sewed on the ass. While in the barracks his brother introduced a guy he was serving with. Vietnam was still very much fresh. The guy left the room and came back a few minutes later with what appeared to be a (loaded) 12 ga pump shotgun. He wracked it pointed directly in the kids face and asked him "what gives you the right to wear that patch let alone where you're wearing it"? The gun was empty but nobody knew it except the guy holding the gun and the older brother. Needless to say the kid was back on a plane in a few hours heading back home. Scared s#1+less. True story.
Yeah we should all be mindful of what statement we make with how we dress.
 
The Night Rider said:
Why, no, no it's not.


Given that firearms are absolutely forbidden in the barracks unless they are stored under lock and key in the unit Arms Room I have a very hard time believing this ever happened
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I know that. This was not anything government. This was his own personal firearm I assume for hunting. I served my brother served. My father a lifer 21 years and 2 foreign wars. I know guns are not allowed and to be stored in the arms room. I can also tell you while on guard duty in Germany I did have at one point on a weekend I had my issued M16-A1 in my locker for a night 74 Bamburg Germany. This was his own personal firearm. Believe me. This story was confirmed by his older brother. He thought it was amusing. I have nothing to gain by bs. This was circa 73 or 72.
"No brass no ammo drill sergeant"
 
The Night Rider said:
Why, no, no it's not.


Given that firearms are absolutely forbidden in the barracks unless they are stored under lock and key in the unit Arms Room I have a very hard time believing this ever happened
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I bought my Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag. while in the Army. I hid it in the ceiling tiles in the barracks at Fort Carson. We also used to buy our own 5.56 at gun stores in town, so we could take it down range with us and have some full auto fun with our M16A1s, instead of shooting off blanks. Did the same thing while in the Marine Corps. Never got caught.
 
The Night Rider said:
Why, no, no it's not.


Given that firearms are absolutely forbidden in the barracks unless they are stored under lock and key in the unit Arms Room I have a very hard time believing this ever happened
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It does happen. Been an AF bratt and associate member of the Marine Corps League, I’ve heard the stories of how things get handled. Latest one was from an older Marine Vet with his 1911 that they never signed out but gave to him and was honest to his command after they had to return their firearms.
 
OldGrunt said:
I bought my Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag. while in the Army. I hid it in the ceiling tiles in the barracks at Fort Carson. We also used to buy our own 5.56 at gun stores in town, so we could take it down range with us and have some full auto fun with our M16A1s, instead of shooting off blanks. Did the same thing while in the Marine Corps. Never got caught.
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My dad discharged out retired out of Ft. Carson CO. Nice duty station. At least it was in 68.
 
OldGrunt said:
I bought my Ruger Super Blackhawk .44 mag. while in the Army. I hid it in the ceiling tiles in the barracks at Fort Carson. We also used to buy our own 5.56 at gun stores in town, so we could take it down range with us and have some full auto fun with our M16A1s, instead of shooting off blanks. Did the same thing while in the Marine Corps. Never got caught.
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I believe you but given that I'm pretty sure we were at Fort Carson at the same time I'm going to guess that you were incredibly lucky because they routinely brought dogs through our barracks.

I was at Fort Carson from 1992 to 1996. General Guy J. LaBoa was in command of the Fourth Infantry Division.

I was MEDDAC so I technically wasn't fourth ID but a friend of mine who was in 1/12 Infantry said that LaBoa had issued a division wide order that no Soldier under his command E4 or below could own a personal firearm. As long as they were assigned to his command. It didn't matter if they lived in the barracks or they lived off post or they were married and lived in housing or off post.

There was a guy on another forum that said that around 2005 or so every Soldier on Fort Carson who owned a weapon anywhere was required to register it on post.

According to the person who made the post they didn't care if your gut gun was in your parents' gun safe back home in Florida they wanted make model and serial number. He said the order was routinely ignored. I wouldn't have any way of knowing one way or the other.
 
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Mellgard said:
I know that. This was not anything government. This was his own personal firearm I assume for hunting. I served my brother served. My father a lifer 21 years and 2 foreign wars. I know guns are not allowed and to be stored in the arms room. I can also tell you while on guard duty in Germany I did have at one point on a weekend I had my issued M16-A1 in my locker for a night 74 Bamburg Germany. This was his own personal firearm. Believe me. This story was confirmed by his older brother. He thought it was amusing. I have nothing to gain by bs. This was circa 73 or 72.
"No brass no ammo drill sergeant"
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When I was in the Army even if you were allowed a personally owned weapon it had to be stored in the Arms Room.

Unless you're willing to tell me that you actually witnessed this event I think somebody was jerking your chain
 
The Night Rider said:
I believe you but given that I'm pretty sure we were at Fort Carson at the same time I'm going to guess that you were incredibly lucky because they routinely brought dogs through our barracks.

I was at Fort Carson from 1992 to 1996. General Guy J. LaBoa was in command of the Fourth Infantry Division.

I was MEDDAC so I technically wasn't fourth ID but a friend of mine who was in 1/12 Infantry said that LaBoa had issued a division wide order that no Soldier under his command E4 or below could own a personal firearm. As long as they were assigned to his command. It didn't matter if they lived in the barracks or they lived off post or they were married and lived in housing or off post.

There was a guy on another forum that said that around 2005 or so every Soldier on Fort Carson who owned a weapon anywhere was required to register it on post.

According to the person who made the post they didn't care if your gut gun was in your parents' gun safe back home in Florida they wanted make model and serial number. He said the order was routinely ignored. I wouldn't have any way of knowing one way or the other.
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I was stationed on Fort Carson from 85-88. No such rule then, and I would not have followed it. Also forgot that I also hid a .25 auto in the barracks. The dogs were run through every once in a while, but they were drug dogs, and I didn't do drugs. We also cleaned our assingned and crew served weapons in the barracks. Times were different back then.
 
I enlisted in 74. I dropped out of highschool at 16 and had my dad sign for me at 17. Back then it was technically still Vietnam era and the quota was 55% grads 45% non grads. My dad was a career soldier and told me I didn't know what I was getting myself into. If anything it taught me about respect. Spent my 18th birthday in Germany. The US Army has changed quite a bit I imagine since then. We had C-ration and were still wearing the steel pot and fatigue. Hell you got cigarettes with C-ration. Born on a Army base and so was my brother. My mom was a WAAC and that's how my dad met her when he was stationed in Germany. In my day drill sergeants were still carrying 1911s and they were still being used in combat.
To think this rant was started about a T shirt.....
 
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