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Old Versus New Cartridges: Which Rifle Rounds Are Better?

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Shooters and hunters love to argue about cartridges. I suspect this began when two cavemen first squabbled over which rock had superior ballistic properties. Today, judging by all the jabs and memes on social media, you might conclude that rifle shooters occupy two camps: traditionalists and modernists.

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Old Versus New Cartridges: Which Rifle Rounds Are Better?

Shooters and hunters love to argue about cartridges. I suspect this began when two cavemen first squabbled over which rock
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The .308 is my most common rifle round in both semi-autos and bolt actions.
I do shoot a few other calibers, but they mostly just go with the rifle That I have designed for them. .30-06 in the Garands, .30-30 & .45-70 in lever guns. 5.56 in ARs.
I don't really have anything against all the newer calibers out there, but I just don't see the need for new calibers and other round to reload when what I have works fine for me. :rolleyes:
 
Grayfox said:
The .308 is my most common rifle round in both semi-autos and bolt actions.
I do shoot a few other calibers, but they mostly just go with the rifle That I have designed for them. .30-06 in the Garands, .30-30 & .45-70 in lever guns. 5.56 in ARs.
I don't really have anything against all the newer calibers out there, but I just don't see the need for new calibers and other round to reload when what I have works fine for me. :rolleyes:
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45-70 OSS love to have one
 
I have various calibers but have taken to a Tikka 6.5 creedmoor that I won a few years back. Have shot quite a few doe with it including this one Saturday.
 

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A guy that i work with said his boy hit multiple deer with a 6.5 and never found any of them. I said sounds like he needs more time at the range.
 
I wouldn’t trade a 300 WM for a 300 PRC. But, if I were new to western hunting I would get the PRC.

I can’t think of a new cartridge that would make me trade out the old standard.
 
While some traditional vs. modern cartridges have very similar performance the more modern types with the minimal case taper, sharp shoulders and no belts are typically more efficient designs.

PO Ackley had it right decades ago when he developed his designs with those attributes.

It's just took 30+ years for his approach to become mainstream.
 
More efficient??? So, my 6.5 Swede or 7mm Mag is less efficient?? Is it less efficient, even if the case is 1/4 longer, or a bit older? Fie on you…you probably believe .308 is better than the30-06…heathens everywhere…we need a witch hunt.
 
I think that in the last 20 years or so it was the development of newer bullet designs that led to developing new cartridges.

Hornady seems to be the industry leader - developing bullet designs and then cartridges around that bullet. Think Amax, then ELD-X , etc.

First came the Creedmoor than came the ARC, or so it goes.
 
Oldmountaiman said:
I had a 308 Norma magnum and I believe it was the most brutal rifle I had ever handled.
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I won't dispute your Personal Experiences . But your percieved shooter experience, is likely influenced by stock designs, and how it fit to Your body and build .

.308 Norma is essentially a ballistic twin of the .300 Win Mag . That is " more than .30-06 , but significantly less than .338 and up heavy kickers .
 
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