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Pickett's Charge - "They Fell Like Grain Before the Reaper"

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Pickett's Charge was an infantry assault on July 3, 1863, during the Battle of Gettysburg. It was ordered by Confederate General Robert E. Lee as part of his plan to break through Union lines and achieve a decisive victory in the North.

Pickett's Charge was a devastating Confederate assault which resulted in heavy casualties and ultimately contributed to the Union victory. It involved a frontal attack across open fields by approximately 12,500 Confederate soldiers against the well-defended Union center on Cemetery Ridge. The charge is named after Major General George Pickett, one of the Confederate commanders who led the assault.
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Yep.

They wanted to leave so they could keep people as property.

The exact same thing as the Revolution.

I just rolled my eyes so hard I saw my brain.
How far do you want to take this discussion?

I don't claim to understand this thinking but a large majority of Southerners believed that it was God's will for black people to be enslaved. They thought it was self-evident if it wasn't God's will it wouldn't be slaves.

Was it any different than the people around when I was a kid who thought it was okay to exclude blacks from their restaurants?

Don't ever think for a second that you're better than them because you don't send the same way they do.
 
How far do you want to take this discussion?

I don't claim to understand this thinking but a large majority of Southerners believed that it was God's will for black people to be enslaved. They thought it was self-evident if it wasn't God's will it wouldn't be slaves.

Was it any different than the people around when I was a kid who thought it was okay to exclude blacks from their restaurants?

Don't ever think for a second that you're better than them because you don't send the same way they do.
No, it’s NO different than the people who thought blacks should be excluded from their restaurants…

I’m waiting for you to DEFEND that line of thinking.

Go for it.
 
My great grandfather and his brother immigrated from Ireland in the mid-1850s and, when their servitude was over, the brother went to live in Pennsylvania. When the Civil War started, my great grandfather signed up and fought at Antietam and Gettysburg. He was wounded during Pickett's first charge and fell into a depression that shielded him from further injury. He was taken prisoner and spent the remainder of the war in a prison camp in Binghamton, NY. After the war, he was released and walked back to North Carolina where he became a blacksmith. He fathered my grandfather in 1888. A few years ago, I was at the battlefield and trying to find that depression. Since I was out in a field walking around, a ranger spotted me, came over and asked what I was doing. I told him and he said, "I know where that is." I was only a couple of hundred yards away. I was there, again, about ten days ago and learn something new with every visit.
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Being so close to Sharpsburg later that day, I stopped there, as well, to pay my respects to our ancestors:
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The above photo is of "The Cornfield" where 3,600 Americans died.

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Mike
 
I’m waiting for you to DEFEND that line of thinking.
I'm not going to defend that line of thinking. I don't agree with that line of thinking but that was the prevailing thought on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line in 1863.


If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.


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I'm not going to defend that line of thinking. I don't agree with that why I'm thinking but that was the prevailing thought on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Line in 1863.
One side attacked the other to preserve that line of thinking which you can’t—won’t—defend.

The other fought back when attacked to end it. And they beat that other side like a F’ing DRUM until the those traitors just gave up.

Sherman should’ve kept going.

Their inbred offspring still try to wave the flags today…losers flags, that is.

The only Confederate flag that matters is the urine-stained bedsheets of surrender they flew at the end.
 
I'm not sure you can call the Southerners "Traitors".

All they really wanted was to leave The Union. The same thing our ancestors did 100 years previously.
Not to mention that the “Right to Secession” was actually an accepted concept at the time. The “Union” was a voluntary collection of 13 sovereign nations (States). Since the joined voluntarily is was always believed they could also separate voluntarily, The first states that ever threatened to leave the union were ALL northern states in the early 1800’s. In point of fact that “right” was actually taught at no less an institution than West Point up through the 1850’s. People in any of the states did not consider themselves “Americans”, rather they were New Yorkers, or Virginians or.. name the state. All Southerners actually did was follow their individual State when it voluntarily left the Union. For the first 8 decades the government of the United States was radically different than the government has been since 1865.
 
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