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PieterCoetzee said:
You should do what you think is best; but as I keep saying the report wont wait, in fact the poor patrol guy will be glad that you are waiting so he can get the report written and go home. He'll be happy to turn it over to the suits BUT once he lists YOU as anything other than VICTIM, theres no going back from that
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Are you Legal Council or just playing one on the internet ?
 
If concerned your caliber choice will be targeted by a crappy prosecutor, I’ve always heard choosing the caliber local PD uses is easy to defend. Granted, the chances of finding any agency still using the .357 Magnum are small.
However…

“Mr prosecutor sir, I was talking to a local officer who carries a .357 Magnun off duty. He said he chose it due to its versatility of being able to use various loads to suit the needs of the area. I figured a local person, especially a member of the fine law enforcement community, would know best.”
 
BassCliff said:
Hi,





I have just defended myself with my firearm. The adrenaline is coursing through my veins. My heart is pumping a mile a minute. Everything happened so fast. Events blurred. Am I going to remember everything? Where was everyone standing/moving? What was said up until the event occurred? Did I notice any witnesses? What did the bad guy do to threaten me? What happened to the bad guy's weapon? Will I recall all the facts in the proper order while I'm in shock after a traumatic situation?

Should I ask the officer, "Pretty please, could you list me as the VICTIM in your report?" Or should I just blather on saying everything I think I remember, everything I might have seen, tell him my feelings and my fears, my hopes and dreams?

Are you offering legal counsel? If it's so important for the inital reporting officer (LAPD? Hazzard County Deputy Sheriff?) to list me as a VICTIM, what do I say to him/her? What do you recommend?

The firm I pay to take care of me says this:

1) Call 911
Explain: "I was attacked, feared for my life and had to defend myself."
Request: "Please send BOTH police and an ambulance to this location."

2) Call my law team.

3) When Responding Officers Arrive
Comply: Follow all police instructions.
Medical: Request medical attention, if necessary.
Silence: "I will cooperate 100 percent, but first I need my attorney." (Do not talk further without your lawyer present.)

Now, I realize that I will probably spend a few hours, or even the whole night in jail. I will likely have my firearm confiscated. My attorney will be able to calmly walk me through the previous events so that I can recall details and timelines in a coherent, concise, fact-filled statement that will remain consistent throughout any proceedings. My bail will be arranged. My firearm will be replaced, if not returned. All my legal fees, bail, expert witnesses (if necessary), outside investigations, etc, are covered. Because of my training, I am confident that I would be completely exonerated.

You should do what you think is best.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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You and I must belong to the same organization. I went to their website yesterday and read the same exact thing. I was about to copy and paste it myself, but our in-house barracks lawyer doesn't approve of the things I post, so I knew it would be fruitless to add to the thread. About the only thing I can agree on with the barracks counselor is "You do what you think is best".
 
Hi,

OldGrunt said:
You and I must belong to the same organization. I went to their website yesterday and read the same exact thing. I was about to copy and paste it myself, but our in-house barracks lawyer doesn't approve of the things I post, so I knew it would be fruitless to add to the thread. About the only thing I can agree on with the barracks counselor is "You do what you think is best".
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The lead counsel will be at my range next month for a legal seminar and Q&A session. We've met before and he is a member at my range. It will be interesting and fun.

I imagine most firms that offer self-defense legal protection have similar instructions for these situations. For example...

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But you do what you think is best. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Yeah I think maybe youve listen to too many YouTube videos and Shooting Insurance companies. The States Attorney doesnt get the file if you are listed as a VICTIM in the police report. Id suggest you learn how to articulate and should a shooting be necessary, explain why you had to shoot. Dont wait for you attorney...bad guys want an attorney.

Tell the officer what happened, make him understand that YOU are the victim, not the guy with MAGNUM holes leaking on the sidewalk or the guy with a mag full of 9mm holes.
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Only problem is the following civil suit for shooting the dude what was “an honor student who just made a mistake and shouldn’t have to pay for it with his life “.
 
It appears that @BassCliff, @OldGrunt and myself hang out in the same or similar organizations. For anyone that belongs to or thinking of joining a like minded organization they will all have the same instructions. In the self defense scenario I have always anticipated leaving the scene with the officers. I have taken steps to help with the situation if the situation should arise. Thankfully, I live in a state that does stand behind my right to justifiably defend myself.
 
3L120 said:
Only problem is the following civil suit for shooting the dude what was “an honor student who just made a mistake and shouldn’t have to pay for it with his life “.
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Hahahaha yeah well nothing can stop a lawsuit, and Im pretty sure none of the gun insurance companies include civil coverage. So yeah you might come up against the kid that was gonna get his family out of the ghetto and his mother may find a shister to file a suit; but a decent attorney should be able to smash that without too much effort AND you get the happy benefit of know that you removed trash from the gene pool. OK maybe the NBA of NFL loose a potential million dollar pay cheque; but you get a trophy, and perhaps a book deal
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Hahahaha yeah well nothing can stop a lawsuit, and Im pretty sure none of the gun insurance companies include civil coverage. So yeah you might come up against the kid that was gonna get his family out of the ghetto and his mother may find a shister to file a suit; but a decent attorney should be able to smash that without too much effort AND you get the happy benefit of know that you removed trash from the gene pool. OK maybe the NBA of NFL loose a potential million dollar pay cheque; but you get a trophy, and perhaps a book deal
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? People in gated communities will sue your a**
 
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