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Rifle Cartridges That Never Made The Big Time

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A look at some British and European rifle cartridges that were years ahead of their time but still failed to catch on.​

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Rifle Cartridges That Never Made The Big Time

For whatever reason, many great rifle cartridges throughout history failed to become popular. Here, we discuss a few from Europe.
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.250 Cogswell & Harrington Super High Velocity​

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The .401 Winchester Self-Loading (also called .401SL or .401WSL) is an American rifle cartridge.Description and performanceIllustration of a .401 Winchester Self-Loading rifle cartridge (1918).Winchester introduced the .401SL in the Winchester '10 self-loading rifle as a supplement to the Winchester '07 and the .351SL in their offering of hi-power, self-loading rifles. The only chambering available in the Winchester Model 1910, the .401SL was used by France, Russia, and American company security forces in the First World War.The .401SL proved powerful enough for both deer and other large game at ranges under 150 yards.Both 200gr and 250gr bullet weights were offered by Winchester and other ammunition manufacturers as factory loadings. With extra available detachable magazines holding 4-rounds each, the Model 1910 could provide substantial firepower for the big-game hunter. This feature helped promote the use of the .401SL on dangerous game such as moose and grizzly bear in spite of the lack of controlled expansion bullet designs, which doubtlessly would have improved game-taking performance and the subsequent reputation of the .401SL cartridge.
 
Truly nothing is new in ballistics. A “new” centerfire round may use a different (Typically shorter) case, and/or use a newer powder with higher pressures, but otherwise somewhere in the 20th century that’d do basically the same thing. Until the laws of physics get repealed it will always be thus. Classic example=6.5 Creedmore/6.5 Swede Mauser. 130 yr old round . 6.8 x 51/.276 Peterson (100 years old, A touch over 1/2 the chamber pressure and about 500 fps slower but with modern loadings it would be close-should have been the WW2 round for the Garand😏)
 
Lots of "new stuff" today doesn't really take the place of what we already have access to, but it's all about chasing the dollar and marketing.
 
Anchorite said:
Lots of "new stuff" today doesn't really take the place of what we already have access to, but it's all about chasing the dollar and marketing.
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Agree.
I remember when the Winchester super short magnums were on fire, do not hear much about them or see them on the shelves anymore.
Last WSSM rifle I saw for sale was a trade in because the owner had a hard time finding ammo, when he did it was too expensive to shoot.
 
Pitdogg2 said:
Agree.
I remember when the Winchester super short magnums were on fire, do not hear much about them or see them on the shelves anymore.
Last WSSM rifle I saw for sale was a trade in because the owner had a hard time finding ammo, when he did it was too expensive to shoot.
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On another forum there's a member there that has a 223wssm in an ar.. wikes!
 
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