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RIP Sig P320

SimonRL said:
It’ll be a story when the public stops buying the P320. While it’s still all about itchy fingered LEOs it’s a non-starter. I’m a self avowed Sig fanboi and I’m just fine. Ask anyone. 🤪🤪🤪
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The FBI testing and rejecting the gun isn't story enough for you?! I'm not being facetious when I say I'll pray that you don't put a hole in your nuts. 100% serious, I am absolutely praying for you. I genuinely don't want that to happen to you.
 
I used to trust about half what I saw on the internet, with tic tic, Facebook, youboob and now AI generated stuff i trust about maybe 15 these days, and then only if can verify. It's all about click, likes, subscribers, there is too much pressure to invent, twist, repeat others opinions etc.

Youboob and Audicy are nice for listening to music though. And I have found a couple of instructional vids which helped on various projects so its not a complete waste.

My wife loves the animal videos on Facebook even though I point out that most are AI generated and show her how i csn tell. Makes her feel good, she avoids the ones where they are abused first those make her cry.

She's much nicer, and more innocent and trusting than I she's a better person by far. But she's not allowed to reply or contact anyone she gets any unsolicited information from unless I check it out. Like I said she trusts I am naturally wary.
 
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Sld1959 said:
I used to trust about half what I saw on the internet, with tic tic, Facebook, youboob and now AI generated stuff i trust about maybe 15 these days, and then only if can verify. It's all about click, likes, subscribers, there is too much pressure to invent, twist, repeat others opinions etc.

Youboob and Audicy are nice for listening to music though. And I have found a couple of instructional vids which helped on various projects so its not a complete waste.

My wife loves the animal videos on Facebook even though I point out that most are AI generated and show her how i csn tell. Makes her feel good, she avoids the ones where they are abused first those make her cry.

She's much nicer, and more innocent and trusting than I she's a better person by far. But she's not allowed to reply or contact anyone she gets any unsolicited information from unless I check it out. Like I said she trusts I am naturally wary.
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This is an FBI report, not AI generated, not a TikToker, etc. This is 100% genuine FBI testing. You can go get the report yourself and read it.
 
Certified Silly Goose said:
The FBI testing and rejecting the gun isn't story enough for you?! I'm not being facetious when I say I'll pray that you don't put a hole in your nuts. 100% serious, I am absolutely praying for you. I genuinely don't want that to happen to you.
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It’s got nothing to do with my nuts. I don’t aim a P320 at them. It’s got to do with the millions of P320s in the hands of people like you and me that don’t go off on their own. The odds say that even if this is happening in the smallest of percentages we would be seeing this happen at the range all the time but it doesn’t. I have asked time and time again if anyone has first hand experience with a P320 going off - not anecdotal, not on YouTube, not I have a buddy who knows a guy - and no one has stepped up. No, I don’t give what a flying F what the FBI does or says. Hell more than half the people on most any gun sight would check a calendar if the FBI told them today was Wednesday. I don’t care what any org that qualifies once a year has to say about any gun. I’m at the range on average, 3 days a week, and in all my time there I’ve seen plenty of dumbasses do some dumb stuff, but not once have I seen a P320 go off without having the trigger pulled - including mine. And oh, by the way, I had someone’s P320 get knocked off a bench onto a concrete floor and land butt end first pointing at us and we both lived to tell the tale. Believe what you want, but you have to do better than a YouTube video.
 
Ok since this is the 3rd thread in this (2 by the same guy in like 3 days but whatever)
Here is the MSP report I also posted on the other thread. MSPnis also reportedly going back to Glocks later this year after dumping them for SIgs like 2 years ago

If you don’t want to read this below is the short summary from Dave Spaulding.

That said out of all the guntubers on YouTube (folks talking training etc excluding firearm review folks) there are like 5 that are worth a poop

The majority get on and want to one up someone or bash a gun camp any that isn’t their chooses. And where else but FB can you see grown people. Complaining about someone else’s drama that has absolutely zero effect in them or anyone watching but if that’s your thing or you line listen to theory and conjecture on how a use of force is gonna happen by kids (by kids I mean 25-30 some year olds) that have never even been around whem someone saw the elephant and talk about speed then YouTube is ripe for you!

MSP M18 Pistol Evaluation_FINAL_Redacted.pdf

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ECS686 said:
Ok since this is the 3rd thread in this (2 by the same guy in like 3 days but whatever)
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Post count doesn't matter. We don't pay for posts. It doesn't harm the website or the server. It's a moot point. New news gets it's own topic, period. That's the whole point of the forum system.

ECS686 said:
The majority get on and want to one up someone or bash a gun camp any that isn’t their chooses. And where else but FB can you see grown people. Complaining about someone else’s drama that has absolutely zero effect in them or anyone watching
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I highly respected Sig until this, actually. The P320 (or rather how they handled it) changed my opinion about them. Also, I am not on FB. Back in December of 2020, I made a post on my private wall (friends only) "Trump won the election, biden won the installation" and was immediately banned for it for 30 days. That was my last time on FB.

This isn't drama, it's UDs in school yards and police stations and traffic stops. It's people's lives in danger. You need to learn what "drama" is. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it drama and doesn't make it any less real or serious.

And it DOES affect all of us, P320 owners AND the people around them. This isn't a 9 v. 45 debate, it's a poorly designed firearm that's hurting people and the company isn't doing a damn thing about it. And now they're [rightfully] starting to lose contracts over it.

That's all there is to it. You're making it FAR more complicated than it actually is.
 
Certified Silly Goose said:
Post count doesn't matter. We don't pay for posts. It doesn't harm the website or the server. It's a moot point. New news gets it's own topic, period. That's the whole point of the forum system.


I highly respected Sig until this, actually. The P320 (or rather how they handled it) changed my opinion about them. Also, I am not on FB. Back in December of 2020, I made a post on my private wall (friends only) "Trump won the election, biden won the installation" and was immediately banned for it for 30 days. That was my last time on FB.

This isn't drama, it's UDs in school yards and police stations and traffic stops. It's people's lives in danger. You need to learn what "drama" is. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it drama and doesn't make it any less real or serious.

And it DOES affect all of us, P320 owners AND the people around them. This isn't a 9 v. 45 debate, it's a poorly designed firearm that's hurting people and the company isn't doing a damn thing about it. And now they're [rightfully] starting to lose contracts over it.

That's all there is to it. You're making it FAR more complicated than it actually is.
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I am not making anything complicated.

Wether firearms or 3m with their micro plastics (research forever chemicals it will be the death of us all)

Companies do not care. That said while I’d like SIG to make amends and correct this as it is a distraction I would still buy a Sig 22x series I am one person so wether I do or don’t isn’t going to make or break them into doing what most of us think they should!

The drama I am referring to the 320 is included however my point was on YouTube of FN you have grown men arguing about what Trex arms is doing that had absolutely no effect in them

On the other forums they would merge your new one into an existing one as some following the first one might not see any relevent new info so they channel it there.

But an Sig don’t buy an Sig makes no difference to me!
I remember when everyone was mad at Glock because they never had a recall it was a “product upgrade”
S&W kver the internal Lock
Ruger kver Bill SR making 10 round mags should be standard comment, rock River kver getting exempt from Illinois laws

I could go on but a lot of chest thumping but nobody really cares and little will change
 
Cedric said:
There is no press release at the FBI website concerning the P320. And that's all I have to say about that.
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The P320 was never the FBI's handgun.

There was a competition 9 yrs ago with the Glock & P320 in the running and the FBI, and associated agencies, selected the Glock.

FBI Selects Glock Pistol | Soldier Systems Daily

According to an award announcement posted today on FedBizOpps The Federal Bureau of Investigation has selected the Glock pistol as their new sidearm. In con ...
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In June 2016, the FBI awarded a contract to Glock for new 9mm service and training weapons. This decision marked a shift from the previously issued .40 caliber Glock pistols, which had been in use since 1997. The contract includes the supply of the Glock 17 (full-size) and Glock 19 (mid-size) models. The FBI's transition back to the 9mm caliber was influenced by advancements in ammunition technology, which made the 9mm a more viable option with higher magazine capacity and less recoil.

While the FBI's Request for Proposal seemed to favor the modular design of the SIG Sauer P320, Glock ultimately secured the contract due to its reliability in testing, according to Recoil Magazine. During the testing phase, several Glock 17s and 19s reportedly fired 20,000 rounds each without any malfunctions, totaling 120,000 rounds in all.

Therefore, the FBI has indeed switched to Glock pistols as their standard service weapons, specifically the Glock 17 and Glock 19 models in 9mm caliber.

www.recoilweb.com

Glock Awarded FBI Contract

Read: Glock Awarded FBI Contract from Industry News on June 29, 2016 for Recoil.
www.recoilweb.com www.recoilweb.com

The Sig Sauer P320 was not ultimately adopted as the standard-issue handgun for the FBI, although it was initially considered and a variant was even selected for testing. The FBI ultimately opted to remain with Glock pistols, specifically the Glock 19M and Glock 17M.

So, there was never a switch contrary to the recent multiple internet Clickbait.

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