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Seven vs Eight-Why it matters!

Agree, kinda. Lots of good shooters with lots of good cartridges out here. Some even shoot ported or comped 9mm handguns. Plenty of "my way or the highway" in this forum. The "Band Wagon" likes to talk about the mighty recoil of the 9mm needing to be tamed by ports and such. You know who you are, the work on your grip crew.if seven rounds are good for you, rock on. I am one of those fast shooting "fairies" mentioned in a previous post, you know,6 in the A zone under 2 seconds. Not trying to be a little biatch but I am overdosing on the Fuddism lately. Live a little, it will do ya good. Peace
 
SL66 said:
Agree, kinda. Lots of good shooters with lots of good cartridges out here. Some even shoot ported or comped 9mm handguns. Plenty of "my way or the highway" in this forum. The "Band Wagon" likes to talk about the mighty recoil of the 9mm needing to be tamed by ports and such. You know who you are, the work on your grip crew.if seven rounds are good for you, rock on. I am one of those fast shooting "fairies" mentioned in a previous post, you know,6 in the A zone under 2 seconds. Not trying to be a little biatch but I am overdosing on the Fuddism lately. Live a little, it will do ya good. Peace
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Well, work on your grip and you could do 7 in 1.7 seconds 🤪🤪🤪😉🤠
 
@Winchester67 - No fair! You started this thread before I joined! LOL. I'll just add my 2 cents worth. I use the Wilson # 47 7 rounders for my 1911s having a normal mag well add on (unless it's the Stan Chen mag well that involves shortening the grip portion of the frame). Depending on how I'm carrying it, I've found that I can conceal the butt of a 1911 WITH a mag well almost as easily as one without. BUT... without IS a little easier to conceal.

It might be heresy now, but for my 1911s WITHOUT a mag well add-on, I use the 7 round GI magazines from Checkmate Industries. To my knowledge, Checkmate is the only manufacturer that is producing these. They're made just like the mags in the first 1911s that rolled off Colt's production lines. The only "shortcut" that Checkmate does is that everything including the base plate is welded. They feed super reliable, they have the "proper" dimpled GI 7 round follower, spring and the true, honest-to-goodness GI feed lip shape. I made a large bulk purchase of these from Checkmate and received a VERY nice discount on the purchase. It will take the remainder of my lifetime to use these up, and my children and grandchildren will likely still have a supply.
 
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Winchester67 said:
Red Goat, I agree true GI mags are good to go and I have had good luck with Checkmate. The main reason I like the Wilson #47 is they can be disassembled easily for cleaning and applying a coat of automotive paste wax on the inside.
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The # 47 I think has some aspects that is superior to the original GI mags. I only wish that the # 47 was available with the GI shaped feed lips and follower. I reserve their usage for 1911s with a mag well because of their slight increase in length makes them "just right" for fit. Insert mag and ram it home, it locks in flush. The GI mags (and all others having the same body length) are too short to quickly insert and push to lock in with a mag well unless one "goes the extra mile" and attaches a pad to the base plate to give a little extra length.

I LIKE your notion of waxing the interior of the magazine body. In the past, Checkmate made the GI magazine available with a stainless steel body as well as the usual blued. Now they only offer the blued mag The stainless body was always a bit "slicker." The blued ones arrive from them with a slight "grabby" feel on their surface which only goes away with a bit of cleanup and use. I'd prefer that they be good to go when I take them from the packaging.
 
Stainless is slicker. Why not add wax to make it super slicker? That is one of the old timer tricks that does not cost much money (because you already had paste wax for your car...right?) but it might give you an edge. I personally am all about the edge. I want to always cut enough corners to add up to something. It might not add up, but it makes me feel better.
 
Assuming there is just one bad dude. If it works for you. You do you. I’m not a fast fairy. I want as much horsepower in the smallest package possible. Give me a 10-15 round 9 mm without all that junk on top, and while I’m kicking one ant mound I might as well kick another.
Red dots are great when you can draw exactly the same every single time, but the added mass and the fact that in an emergency situation where you might have multiple things going on multiple things in your hands and who knows what rushing you from different angles (we’re not dealing with Harry and Marv these days). I’m just trying to get the gun out of my pants in time let alone present it and draw it exactly the damn same.
 
Started carrying a 1911 in the 80's. That or a wheelgun back then. But I finally got worn down years later by my cop buddies and went to a Glock 19. I hate it. But it works. I am not as accurate as I am with the 1911, but that is splitting hairs. I am faster dropping the falling plate rack with the Glock 19, even though on paper the 1911 is more accurate. We are talking practical accuracy with a defensive sidearm, and with modern bullets and powders (gunpowder formulation over the last 20 years has been amazing, allowing faster velocity with lower pressure than ever before) it is the logical choice. Or a Springfield Armory XD (I still like the grip safety) or the S&W M and P series...or any other plastic fantastic. So in my wilder/younger days the Glock was my constant companion. But I have 60 in the rear view mirror now. I am no longer inserting myself into troublesome situations. So I have gone back to the 1911. I am the most comfortable with that platform. With my low risk lifestyle it is enough with 8 up and a Chip McCormick 10 round reload. Reliability is key. And the seven round 1911 has proved itself thru two world wars, countless dust ups, a Korean "Police Action" and the jungle hell of Vietnam. It has also been a reliable companion in the Sandbox despite being officially replaced by the Beretta. It is, for me anyway, the last and final word in reliable and controllable self defense cartridges.
 
RedGoat said:
The # 47 I think has some aspects that is superior to the original GI mags. I only wish that the # 47 was available with the GI shaped feed lips
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Finally, Feed Lips were mentioned !

JMB designed the 1911 with controlled feed . The new wave feed lips essentially convert into push feed .

The original design depends on the gun having dimensions and angles faithful to JMB . The push feed mags are an adaptation to deal with wide variation of exact fitting and angles .

Nowadays, correct old style mags are hard to find . The Colt " hybrid " feed lips are reasonably close in function.
 
Biggfoot44 said:
Finally, Feed Lips were mentioned !

JMB designed the 1911 with controlled feed . The new wave feed lips essentially convert into push feed .

The original design depends on the gun having dimensions and angles faithful to JMB . The push feed mags are an adaptation to deal with wide variation of exact fitting and angles .

Nowadays, correct old style mags are hard to find . The Colt " hybrid " feed lips are reasonably close in function.
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^^^^^^ This! ^^^^^^^
 
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