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Okie John

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A few weeks ago, I bought a new stainless Garrison 5” in 45 ACP. I like this pistol. Stainless is ideal for western Washington and it regularly makes sub-3” groups at 25 yards with S&B factory 230-grain ball ammo without any modifications.

At the 72-round mark, it tied up so tight that I had to pound it against the bench to get the slide far enough to the rear to unload it. I disassembled it, worked it over with a rag and a toothbrush, then lubed it lightly with BreakFree CLP. It fired one more shot before locking up again.

After I got home, I detail stripped it and found nothing amiss internally.

Online research indicated that using grease instead of oil may help, so I cleaned off the oil and replaced it with grease. The slide moves freely now, but I’m wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this with a stainless Springfield 1911.

Thanks,


X18C
 
HayesGreener said:
I always use grease on the rails of my semi-autos, TW25 to be exact. If the rails are dry with a little crud from firing they can jam up a pistol with tight tolerances. But I am curious about your ammo. Whenever I have encountered a lockup like you described it was an ammo problem.
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It happened with S&B 230-grain FMJ. I'll try it with a different load and let you know how it works.


Okie John
 
Okie John said:
It happened with S&B 230-grain FMJ. I'll try it with a different load and let you know how it works.


Okie John
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i have used (and still do) that very same ammo, with no issues.

i also use Armscor, Winchester, Federal, Fiocchi, and my own reloads, and never that issue.

now, i did have a BEAUTIFUL Kimber Custom II, that gave me an issue nearly like yours, and i ended up sending it back to kimber.

one of the few things they did was ream the chamber, then polished the feed ramp.

gun cycled no one one's business.

i will point out to, that i have a Sig STX 1911, and in the owners manual they do say to use grease on the slide, and i did for a while....

then i switched out to Lucas Extreme Duty oil

i just did not like using grease on my 1911.

as said, by others, a 1911 runs a bit on the "wet side", just not drenching wet.

one more thing, there have been issues with some ammo made by various companies all over the globe.

you could have a bad box of new ammo.

try a different brand, see how it goes

still does this problem..??

I WOULD NOT recommend you do anything more to it.....than to:

CALL Springfield, as they will call it home to the mothership.
 
Greetings!

And welcome to the forum from the Wild Wild Upper Midwest. :p

Okie John said:
A few weeks ago, I bought a new stainless Garrison 5” in 45 ACP. I like this pistol. Stainless is ideal for western Washington and it regularly makes sub-3” groups at 25 yards with S&B factory 230-grain ball ammo without any modifications.

At the 72-round mark, it tied up so tight that I had to pound it against the bench to get the slide far enough to the rear to unload it. I disassembled it, worked it over with a rag and a toothbrush, then lubed it lightly with BreakFree CLP. It fired one more shot before locking up again.

After I got home, I detail stripped it and found nothing amiss internally.

Online research indicated that using grease instead of oil may help, so I cleaned off the oil and replaced it with grease. The slide moves freely now, but I’m wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this with a stainless Springfield 1911.

Thanks,


X18C
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I run my Garrison a little wet, it splashes me in the face for a while after cleaning. ;) There also may be some tight tolerances that will run more smoothly after breaking in, 200-500 rounds or so. I use the Shooter Lube products on all my guns but there is lots of good stuff out there. Pick your poison. :) Mine has never locked up. Keep us informed. I'm hoping to get to the range this week with my Garrison. I'm trying to tighten up my groups with it.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
All of above, keep it lubed with whatever you choose. Oil doesn't run off like a light application of gun grease, don't overdo it or it could slow the slide down.
I used Brian Enos Slide Guide Lite for years until he quit the 20z and now sells only a .5oz tube. I can never get it all out of a tube. I'm using Lucas now with FP10 on my stainless Garrison Government and DW 1911s.
 
Okie John said:
A few weeks ago, I bought a new stainless Garrison 5” in 45 ACP. I like this pistol. Stainless is ideal for western Washington and it regularly makes sub-3” groups at 25 yards with S&B factory 230-grain ball ammo without any modifications.

At the 72-round mark, it tied up so tight that I had to pound it against the bench to get the slide far enough to the rear to unload it. I disassembled it, worked it over with a rag and a toothbrush, then lubed it lightly with BreakFree CLP. It fired one more shot before locking up again.

After I got home, I detail stripped it and found nothing amiss internally.

Online research indicated that using grease instead of oil may help, so I cleaned off the oil and replaced it with grease. The slide moves freely now, but I’m wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like this with a stainless Springfield 1911.

Thanks,


X18C
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This really, really sounds like a problem with the barrel link. With that few rounds, you may not see deformation yet. If it continues, I'd definitely send it to SA for a warranty claim with good details on what's happening.

Also: Double-check your ammo. Any chance it's overpowered and bulging the brass, making it hard to extract?
 
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