Curious to know what others think about this new round. It says it fills the void between the .380 and 9mm. I wasnt aware of the void but Federal Ammo thinks there is room for this round. One of the selling points is you can get up to two or three cartridges more in some guns. But I have already done that in my Hellcat with the higher capacity mags. So Im left wondering why. Seems to fill a niche that most never knew existed. So what say you my forum friends?
The All New 30 Super Carry
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TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
Only if I have reload info and a decent selection of bullets! So far only 2 are available? I like the 7.62x25Tokerov for a 30cal choice.
youngolddude
Professional
The round is designed for very high psi. No thank you. I'll stick with common .380, 9 and .45.
HansGruber
Ronin
I’m not sure if it fills a void between .380 and 9mm, considering it’s a lot smaller than both.
Closer to filling a void between .32 and .380.
I like the idea, but…I suspect it’ll go the way if .327 Fed; niche cartridge.
Closer to filling a void between .32 and .380.
I like the idea, but…I suspect it’ll go the way if .327 Fed; niche cartridge.
Annihilator
Emissary
Looks kind of interesting, but the verdict is still out for me at this time.
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
Just checked max psi and yup it's high! 50k! That's insane for an auto! I'll take 1 or or 3....... I won't buy a complete gun, but a conversation would be nice. Velocity is somewhat low for a high pressure cartridge.
HansGruber
Ronin
Is it, though?
.22TCM is a 40gr bullet at 2100fps, 5” bbl, at 43kPSI.
Double that bullet weight…even at 50k, it’s in line.
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
I wasn't doubting it, just seems it would be a little faster? The bearing surface is quit a bit more than the 22cal. I guess the 5.7x28 also runs just over 50k which was new info too me.
HansGruber
Ronin
I’d keep in mind that 50k is MAX psi; the big boys (Federal being the biggest boy on the block) don’t like to get too close to max…makes their lawyers get…twitchy.
I’d bet that the commercial ammo isn’t over 45k.
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
Most never stay at or 1k under max due to chamber varients that could cause catastrophic conciquinces? No more than 45k could be correct?
HansGruber
Ronin
45k is 10% under max.
Considering that Federal’s +P loads are just over SAAMI spec for standard pressure (in, say 9mm’s case, it’s around 35.5-36k, where 9mm max is 35k, and 9m +p max is 38.5k…)…I’ve got it in good authority their standard pressure 9mm is around 32k.
TidalWave
Professional
Concur
Annihilator
Emissary
And the .357sig
Pitdogg2
Professional
Well that one actually did better than both of mine combined. That is why I didn't include it.
Annihilator
Emissary
Yea, actually it did, but I have shot the .45gap, it wasn’t to bad, I kinda liked it.
BET7
Ronin
Here's Federal announcement with links to prices, FAQs, and videos.
www.federalpremium.com
30 Super Carry
Introducing the all-new 30 Super Carry from Federal - the most revolutionary Personal Defense advancement in nearly 100-years.
HansGruber
Ronin
.357 Sig was actually adopted by a couple of Federal Agencies—USSS and Air Marshals—as well as a number of state agencies (Texas Rangers being one of the larger of those) as well as a number of smaller departments.
.45 Gap was taken up by a couple of state agencies and smaller departments…mostly in Georgia, which has political ties to Glock.
I really like .357; you can get near magnum ballistics with doublestack capacity…but it’s got disagreeable recoil in anything besides a duty pistol.
HansGruber
Ronin
Federal .30 Super Carry Cartridge: Everything You Need to Know - Guns and Ammo
The Federal .30 Super Carry pistol cartridge bridges the performance gap between the .380 ACP and 9mm; here's a full review.
www.gunsandammo.com