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Truck Guns

I was raised on a farm our trucks pretty much all had 22 revolvers and rifles in them plus an occasional 12 ga shotgun to scare rice birds off the fields.( later we got carbide cannons). Now in a small town carry 5-6 mags in my console in addition to a spare mag for my EDC pistol. Going to high school it was common to see one or more rifles in students pickups in the school parking lot. Heck we were more equipped for poop hitting the fan situations than people today.
 
Reality A true truck gun is more for a farm ranch etc and dispatching car it’s and etc.

Lots of theory and conjecture on active shooter response. Reality vary rare and running around with a rifle while 911 calls are coming in about a guy with a rife bad idea,

And if you’re driving and somehow can tell what’s going on 100 yards away and have zero investment in it (no relatives etc) keep driving.

The other thing with rifles and I hear this all the time as I wirk in a school as a protection officer, rifles in crowded situations can be problematic as most don’t train around rule 4 issues and over penetration issues. But I hear self appointed tactics experts boast about their areas that have ARs in a safe in an office. Like a truck gun by the time hih retrieve it your most likely going to have double digest victim counts and 2 the above mentioned over penetration and rule 4 issues (especially from those 100 plus yard shots everyone fantasizes about)

It’s what hih have on you right then and there.

But everyone can theory and conjecture all they want!
 
PieterCoetzee said:
For you guys who insist on bringing a rifle, maybe at least look like youre a cop and use a rifle that cops use. If youre 350lbs and bringing you Daewoo rifle wearing surplus WW2 gear, because the guy at the shop told you it was better than a AR, maybe not a good idea; but its up to you
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Which one of my T shirts should i have on, the one that says kill em all and let god sort em out, or the rainbow my little pony shirt and have my hair up in a bun. if i dyed my hair blue would that help? I would like to have a Daewoo rifle too.
 
I dunno ‘bout y’all but I’ll be doing my best to avoid “active shooter” situations. Would I help an officer in trouble? 100%. No question but I’d do my best- all while doing everything in my power to let him know I was on HIS side. . Would I go out and seek involvement otherwise? Nope-no way. As many have noted in such situations the responding officers are under a ton of stress and on the lookout for the bad guy (And any other bad actors who may be on the scene). Someone unknown comes charging in “to the rescue” playing John Wayne and said individual is very likely to be thought to be another bad actor and get capped by the officer (OR by the bad guy). Conceivably said rescuer could draw fire from BOTH sides.. I’ll take a hard pass thanks. I carry concealed all day every day and my pistol is on me (with the sole exceptions of when I have to enter a place where the law prohibits-in which case it’s locked in a steel box in my vehicle. No truck guns for me. Many MANY years ago I had a model 94 30-30 that lived on a gun rack in the rear window of my pickup-but times have changed and I’ve no desire to be arming thugs.
 
Two things:
The hispanic gangs that prowl the big city and burbs around me are the reason for a little more back up secured in the truck. Its all to common on the news the issues around town with them. Thats if they come to me in attack.

Second, more importantly, that gun gets put within reach when out at the ranch for hogs and yotes when maintenance and filling feeders is done. 1100 acres and I usually see hogs or yotes. Dual purpose for 1 gun and always handy.
 
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Shibadog said:
I dunno ‘bout y’all but I’ll be doing my best to avoid “active shooter” situations.
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Hmmmm? IDK? It seems sometimes Heaven points its finger and says smite the wicket. Guys turn away all the time, and maybe thats a signal that society is crashing. Sure if you have innocents with you, get them to safety; but when Heaven sends a Free Fire mission, I for one wont turn away. I'll be the guy on the news with the terrorist's bloody ear in one hand and my other hand hold my junk as I dance around his dead body. I couldnt do that when I was in uniform; but I sure will now
 
Shibadog said:
Someone unknown comes charging in “to the rescue” playing John Wayne and said individual is very likely to be thought to be another bad actor
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Thats why you dont want to look like a threat, in dress, or with the gun you use.

Of course you have to decide for yourself IF you want to get involved; but I'll ask this, what happens if the Bad Guy kills the officer then continues his shooting spree?

Im not suggesting you run up every time a cop has some encounter; just that when evil is in front of you. maybe you might want to help the good guys and do so so you dont look like a threat to them as you approach.


You guys say these type of inicents are rare. they are when compared to running stop signs of maybe even drunk drivers BUT they certainly arent unheard of anymore
 
PieterCoetzee said:
Yes it will; but do you look like a tennis kinda guy?
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For those recommending involving yourself remember that dude from Colorado?

Funny his story was shared again on FB a couple days ago leave your rifles at home
 

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Reality is that if there is an active shooter situation, and you are somehow stuck in the middle of it, you are not going to have the time nor the opportunity to run to your vehickle and fetch your AR-15. If you are carrying, it will be your handgun that you will be engaging the shooter with. Fantasies are what keep us going, reality is a biotch sometimes. I am not going to carry a rifle or shotgun in my vehicles, as I live in the suburbs and not on a farm/ranch. The logistics of transferring from one vehicle to another as I need to and the fact that I would have to buy another way of securing said rifle/shotgun just are not realistic nor justifiable for our way of life. Handguns are easier to conceal, both on your person and in your vehicle, and are more accessible/versatile for everyday suburban/urban life, as well as that shtf scenario you may find yourself in thru no fault of your own. Life has a way of surprising us, no matter how vigilant we are, and things can go sideways real quick. While I would fancy myself like The Duke with his Winchester Lever Action Rifle taking down the bad guys without reloading, reality is there is no way that would ever be me. And I am good with that. I am not going to look for trouble to involve myself or my loved ones in, and will do everything I can to avoid those situations. But, if the situation warrants my involvement, I will do everything to make sure that my loved ones are out of the line of danger before doing so. I really don't think I could just walk away from a situation where women and children were being taken down, I was raised better than that.
 
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ECS686 said:
For those recommending involving yourself remember that dude from Colorado?

Funny his story was shared again on FB a couple days ago leave your rifles at home
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He made the mistake of taking the rifle from the shooter after he shot him. Had he holstered his weapon after shooting him, and not picked up his rifle, he would probably still be alive. However, with the chaos, the adrenaline and the instinctive action, we are not in a logical frame of mind at that time. Unfortunately, a hero died that day due to one fatal mistake that we don't think of at that moment. He did what any real man would do in that situation, just made the wrong decision at the wrong time. I am not criticizing him for that, he did what needed to be done when he did not have to put his life on the line. This is something to keep firmly etched in our minds should any of us be in that situation as a civilian, so that hopefully none of us meet the same fate in that kind of situation.
 
Onewolf426 said:
Reality is that if there is an active shooter situation, and you are somehow stuck in the middle of it, you are not going to have the time nor the opportunity to run to your vehickle and fetch your AR-15. If you are carrying, it will be your handgun that you will be engaging the shooter
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THIS is why tiny comfy pistols are generally a bad choice. Learn to carry a full size pistol of at least Glock 19 size (and spare mags). Learn to shoot it, so you can make body shots to at least 50 yards and head shots to 15 yards.

Im fond of Tuxedo Guns (PPK and maybe smaller); but they have very limited roles. Is a pocket gun better than nothing? NO not always. There are times that it might be worse than nothing
 
Onewolf426 said:
He made the mistake of taking the rifle from the shooter after he shot him. Had he holstered his weapon after shooting him, and not picked up his rifle, he would probably still be alive. However, with the chaos, the adrenaline and the instinctive action, we are not in a logical frame of mind at that time. Unfortunately, a hero died that day due to one fatal mistake that we don't think of at that moment. He did what any real man would do in that situation, just made the wrong decision at the wrong time. I am not criticizing him for that, he did what needed to be done when he did not have to put his life on the line. This is something to keep firmly etched in our minds should any of us be in that situation as a civilian, so that hopefully none of us meet the same fate in that kind of situation.
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The point is don’t hold anyone’s rifle. And running around with your own especially when the Calvary comes rushing in. it really doesn’t matter as it’s the same objective reasonableness for responders to send rounds your way!
 
ECS686 said:
The point is don’t hold anyone’s rifle. And running around with your own especially when the Calvary comes rushing in. it really doesn’t matter as it’s the same objective reasonableness for responders to send rounds your way!
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Guys I love rifles, I own rifles, I want more rifles, and I still carry a rifle occasionally in my truck. The point Im suggesting is that there are times for rifles and times when they can/will be a liability.
 
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