Trying this whole optic thing.
- Thread starter Jsimon78
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KillerFord1977
SAINT
I was apprehensive at first on optics.
Actually, they are easy to adapt.
We stare at smart phones, TV’s and monitors all day long.
Your brain is already prewired to look at a screen
Just have to learn the muscle memory to bring the gun to eye level
Actually, they are easy to adapt.
We stare at smart phones, TV’s and monitors all day long.
Your brain is already prewired to look at a screen
Just have to learn the muscle memory to bring the gun to eye level
Jsimon78
Elite
It’ll take a lot of training.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
It will come quicker than you think
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
i approach optics on handguns differently. as many optics i have on handguns, i still prefer irons.
Jester560
Custom
Wrong!
Bassbob
Emissary
What’s up with the weird writing on that thing ? Is it a 407 or a 507 ?
Warrior9(Ret)
Custom
I’m waiting for the bundle package from SA to arrive hopefully soon. That’ll be my first handgun red optic I’ve ever owned.
I used several different types of weapons optics on military weapons but never handguns.
I used several different types of weapons optics on military weapons but never handguns.
SimonRL
Ronin
Congrats. The 507C is a good optic. Welcome to the New World. Use the 32 moa reticle with the 2 moa dot to get used to it. Typically, for a right hander if you can’t find the dot is is up and to the left. And as @KillerFord1977 said don’t duck to find the dot, bring the optic up to your eye.
Warrior9(Ret)
Custom
I remember one time I ducked to find the optic….. She slapped the 
out of me
out of me
rcurtner
Professional
Spent many hours dry firing with a Mantis X training device and Holosun EPS 6moa optic before actually shooting on the range. I was pleasantly surprised how well I shot with the optic versus irons. Still try to dry fire at least weekly to help maintain basic fundamentals. Have old eyes (77) the dot optics have really extended my ability to shoot pretty good for an old fart.
SimonRL
Ronin
I think the Mantis X is the most underrated training system out there. I wouldn’t be without it.
Annihilator
Hellion
I got 3 pistols that came with the red dots, the dots are sitting on a shelf…..lol
Warrior9(Ret)
Custom
But you’re using the magazines
I’ll give the optic a try. I’m not dead set on it though.I like the “Flintstones” more than the “Jetsons”
SkippySanchez
Alpha
The amount of practice time to become efficient with red dots is directly proportional to the amount of time you've been shooting with irons. New shooters adapt more quickly than those who have been accustomed to iron sight for years.
The difference is learning to
• keep both eyes open
• look at the target (not the dot)
• put the dot where you want it to go (assuming you've zeroed the optic after sticking it on the gun)
Dry fire practice is the most efficient way to get there.
The difference is learning to
• keep both eyes open
• look at the target (not the dot)
• put the dot where you want it to go (assuming you've zeroed the optic after sticking it on the gun)
Dry fire practice is the most efficient way to get there.
Bassbob
Emissary
I was a looong time iron sight guy when I started putting optics on pistols. Not too long ago actually. Definitely after I joined this forum. Prior to my first VP9 I was pretty firmly in the "no dots on carry guns" camp. I am also cross eye dominant and was shooting with both eyes open with iron sights before I started with dots. To me the only real learning curve ( which I already was mostly doing) is repetitiously bringing the gun up to the same spot, on target, every time. It negates the whole "Looking for the dot" issue. That and realizing that trying to get the dot to completely stop moving before pressing the trigger was counterproductive. Everything else is the same exact thing as shooting with iron sights.
SkippySanchez
Alpha
That's me to a T. Long time iron man, VP9, right handed/left eyed. Big difference is that I'd close my right eye with irons and had to teach myself to keep both eyes open. The dot's gonna bob around - iron sights do too, but it's just not obvious. I've got CT laser grips on a snub and lasers REALLY show how much we move.
Bassbob
Emissary
When I taught myself to shoot with both eyes open I did it pretty quickly. I just practiced focusing first on a target instead of my front sight and trained myself to bring my gun up in front of my left eye. I figured out I was left eye dominant and the conventional wisdom at the time was to either wear a patch to change your dominant eye or just shoot left handed. I wasn't down with either of those solutions so I came up with my own.