That was an accident.I don’t.
They do not have the US’s best interests in mind, and would lie at the drop of a hat to pull us into their BS.
Remember—Israeli Intelligence greenlighted the attack on the USS Liberty…
That was an accident.
And Israel has Israel's interests in mind. Which in this case coincides with ours and the rest of the world's.
DIdn't you notice other than Russia and China, the rest of the world is pretty much just letting it play out. Even Iran's Arab neighbors hate them.
Name one example where, that region, middle east, Turks, ottomans, etc .. have ever done anything peaceful for the world or their region…Name one time—one—that US intervention since the 1950’s in that region has made things better for the people there.
One example.
According to both our governments it was. The JCOS guy disagreed. I don't know how you can say it most certainly was not ?It was most certainly NOT an accident.
Actually, the Ottoman control from the 16th-early 20th century was—relatively for that region—calm.Name one example where, that region, middle east, Turks, ottomans, etc .. have ever done anything peaceful for the world or their region…
Ever ..
One example .. ever in history
I disagree. They have been f'ing around for decades. We are calling their bluff. They have been seeking a nuclear arsenal when the world said no. Now they have been put in their place.You do realize we’re the ones F’ing around, right?
Actually, the Ottoman control from the 16th-early 20th century was—relatively for that region—calm.
Given, “War in the Levant” is probably one of the oldest headlines, so—relatively.
Well, I don't know about that. We bombed a few nuke sites and the Israelis are still pounding them, but I don't think the Iranians have been put anywhere. I doubt it's all just going to be hunky dory now.I disagree. They have been f'ing around for decades. We are calling their bluff. They have been seeking a nuclear arsenal when the world said no. Now they have been put in their place.
I can speak from first hand, though dated knowledge. Gabbard read a typical massaged assessment similar to over 15 years ago. This assessment mind you, is approved by the 17 intelligence agencies with their own ax to grind. These agencies ancient analysis was designed to promote Obama's deal with Iran nothing more. As I said on these pages before, she is naive of she thinks those under her are on the up and up. They're not. I have read the summary of her speech. It's always couched with some sort of sly dissent at the end. Some one dusted off the BS file and handed it to her.Additionally, our own Director of National Intelligence stated they don’t have nukes only a few months ago…and didn’t change her tune until Trump started to claim they did.
Sounds like a reasonable assessment.I can speak from first hand, though dated knowledge. Gabbard read a typical massaged assessment similar to over 15 years ago. This assessment mind you, is approved by the 17 intelligence agencies with their own ax to grind. These agencies ancient analysis was designed to promote Obama's deal with Iran nothing more. As I said on these pages before, she is naive of she thinks those under her are on the up and up. They're not. I have read the summary of her speech. It's always couched with some sort of sly dissent at the end. Some one dusted off the BS file and handed it to her.
I agree to a point that it has all the signs of bad. It had to be done though. Tehran with nukes at their disposal is much worse.Well, I don't know about that. We bombed a few nuke sites and the Israelis are still pounding them, but I don't think the Iranians have been put anywhere. I doubt it's all just going to be hunky dory now.
Yes, and remember a nuclear program has several stages. Of note, prior to OIF, the IAEA never gave Saddam a clean bill of health for his nuclear program despite media accounts they did.Just last week the IAEA found them in violation and made the determination they were hiding their nuclear program.
The difference being that Israel is surrounded by countries that have repeatedly called for Israel to cease to exist…Personally, I think we could have gotten Iran to give up its nuclear program if we could have made Israel to give up their nuclear weapons. Think about it, if a neighbor you hate had a cannon pointed at your house, wouldn't you want to have a cannon pointed at their house?
Agreed. One of the best things about the timing is the F You to Putin.I agree to a point that it has all the signs of bad. It had to be done though. Tehran with nukes at their disposal is much worse.
Sure, have a bigger cannon and a better fightPersonally, I think we could have gotten Iran to give up its nuclear program if we could have made Israel to give up their nuclear weapons. Think about it, if a neighbor you hate had a cannon pointed at your house, wouldn't you want to have a cannon pointed at their house?
So soon.....And, I must bow out now.
Family time overrides a good discussion, I’m afraid.
This thread will be here tomorrow brother. Family time is important. Enjoy it.And, I must bow out now.
Family time overrides a good discussion, I’m afraid.