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No cash bail is hardly a thing in Chicago Cook County, recognizance bonds (catch & release) are routine and depending on circumstances of the crime a cash deposit bond of $500-$750 is not unusual in felony firearm and armed violence offenses here.

What troubling here is how two (2) newly elected IL Supreme Court justices campaigns were financed by JB just a year ago. And then the JO says anyone he ever donated to recused themselves. Yes, the same JB a scoundrel who along with OB-44 should be in jail for election and real estate racketeering 15 yrs ago with the Blago Pay-to-Play Open Senate seat scandal.

Pritzher Familia has a long history of scandal going back to his old man getting tagged by the SEC over a Vegas casino deal in the 70’s, then his sister and her Bank failure history only to become OB-44’s Commerce Secretary.

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HayesGreener said:
It takes a special kind of stupid to not understand the value of cash bond for violent offenders. A year from now they will be wringing hands wondering what happened.
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On one hand, yes.

On the other…I think bail/cash bond should be eliminated entirely; if you’re so dangerous that you need to buy your way out of jail…you shouldn’t be out of jail. Personally, any violent crime suspect should be held until after trial, and an acquittal.

On that same subject—I think the ideas of fines are ludicrous. All a fine says is that if you can afford it, nothing is illegal.

At bare minimum, fines should be based on the offenders income; a $150 speeding ticket doesn’t hurt someone making $100k a year much at all; to someone who is working a couple jobs and barely getting by…it came mean the difference between an arrest warrant or paying for rent.
 
HansGruber said:
On one hand, yes.

On the other…I think bail/cash bond should be eliminated entirely; if you’re so dangerous that you need to buy your way out of jail…you shouldn’t be out of jail. Personally, any violent crime suspect should be held until after trial, and an acquittal.⁹
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Yep. The Constitution guarantees the right to a reasonable bond except in extreme cases. I my view violent felons are extreme cases
 
No Cash Bail...Reminds me of an incident I handled years ago. Drunk guy beats the you know what out of his Wife. My partner and I arrest him we hit him with every charge we could and she does the right thing files for an Emergency PFA. The drunkard says out loud 'If I get out I am going to kill her" which my partner and I and two other officers heard. Take him before the Magistrate on duty who tells us "Oh, I know the guy he's just drunk". We advise the Judge of his statements and he releases the guy with no bail. Literally two hours later, I have my Glock pointed at the guy while he stood on his porch kicking the door in and holding a loaded shotgun. Woke the president Judge up to have an alternate arraign the guy and when all 4 of us tell the president Judge why, he actually got mad at us for waking him up more than the original for releasing the guy with no bail.
 
nmedge said:
I can see a lot of innocent people and cops killed because of that new ruling. It just happened here in New Mexico. What is wrong with these good doer's.
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Somehow, I think they hope that the types of people they disapprove of will be the ones killed. They likely would post a bounty on conservatives and constitutionalists if they could.
 
HansGruber said:
On one hand, yes.

On the other…I think bail/cash bond should be eliminated entirely; if you’re so dangerous that you need to buy your way out of jail…you shouldn’t be out of jail. Personally, any violent crime suspect should be held until after trial, and an acquittal.

On that same subject—I think the ideas of fines are ludicrous. All a fine says is that if you can afford it, nothing is illegal.

At bare minimum, fines should be based on the offenders income; a $150 speeding ticket doesn’t hurt someone making $100k a year much at all; to someone who is working a couple jobs and barely getting by…it came mean the difference between an arrest warrant or paying for rent.
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I agree with all this.
 
I am surprised with Gov. Pritzger's Safe T Act and the mayor of Chicago's defund the police agenda that law enforcement should not even arrest criminals and just issue citations to appear.
 
There are some pretty effective LE programs for dealing with serious repeat offenders, like SHOCAP focused on juveniles, that involve coordination among all the elements of the justice system. Conceptually the worst of the worst stay incarcerated. But it breaks down when not applied, or when an element of the system does not cooperate. A chief judge can derail the programs.

The caseload volume of many courts have become so crushing that bond hearings are often pro forma. Bond and sentencing are the teeth in these programs. Eliminate cash bond and harsh sentencing and these programs cannot work to separate violent criminals from the community.
 
HayesGreener said:
Yep. The Constitution guarantees the right to a reasonable bond except in extreme cases. I my view violent felons are extreme cases
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It seems like only when a repeat offender kills a law enforcement officer or several civilians their ability to bond out becomes an issue. And that's not right. Repeat offenders should have their sentences lengthened every time they are caught.
 
I guess we here in Shelby County (Memphis) are about to find out. Not long ago a new ultra liberal DA was elected. One of his main campaign promises was to eliminate bail.
The liberal line of thinking is that these criminals are poor. Its unfair to hold them in jail just because they can't afford bail. :mad:
 
Grayfox said:
I guess we here in Shelby County (Memphis) are about to find out. Not long ago a new ultra liberal DA was elected. One of his main campaign promises was to eliminate bail.
The liberal line of thinking is that these criminals are poor. Its unfair to hold them in jail just because they can't afford bail. :mad:
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Likely will make it easier to avoid the need to prosecute if they have no reason to show up in court. Maybe they should give them a good talking to, that will straighten them out.
 
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