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Whats the oldest (design) gun you would carry for protection?

I'm mostly jus' yankin' your chain, while pointing out what some might consider a pedantic change, but is really a very intelligent modification.

Ehh . Sure coil springs , & such , are intelligent changes in mechanical engineering context .

But from the User Viewpoint , no difference .

Just like the existance of G45 , and G47 . There are differences in parts compatability across different models . But from the user viewpoint , do different from shooting a G19 / G17 .
released in 1899.


OK . I'll put forth that the locking at front of ejector Rod IS meaningful . So make the compsrison date 1902 instead .

( Or if you Don't feel that's meaningful , roll back the comparison date to 1893 , to the .32 Hand Ejector . )
 
I'll go a step beyond a K Frame . Safety Hammerless Top Break .38 S&W . My specific gun is late profuction circa 1913 , but functionally similar to the ones from 1880's .

Faster , more accurate , and more shootable than any pocket .380 .

The first time l shot it , l went rapid 5 for 5 on 6 inch plates @ 18 yards , one hand . ( No reason for 18 yards , other than that's where we were standing relative to backyard plate rack , and l paced it afterwards .)
 
Well, I'd rather NOT have a matchlock, but if it's all I got, I'll take it.

You think you're joking .

Historical Context - I was visiting the History sight of the Second Colonal sight , the one farther inland , and better positioned than Jamestown . It was a slow day , and the curator was a Gun Guy , and we got into the weeds .

The Milita Commander for Henricus City was a profesional Mercanary , up to date on latest firearms technology of the day .

His view was that Matchlocks worked ok for european set battles , where you could light the matches just before the battle kicked off . But they sucked for Wilderness Militias for guard duty , or patroling , where you needed instant firepower for sudden Indian attack / ambush .

So he went all in with Virginia Company of London's budget , and went all Wheellock .

Good for sudden draw / shouldering , no glowing embers to give away position , less sensitive to dampness .

All really interesting to me , since my ancestors were colonists at the time .
 
Well, anyone would be insane to not say at least 1935 to include the Browning. But then they'd be insane to not say 1911 to include the 1911. But they absolutely should say back to 1907 as the Savage pistol is an excellent pistol. And you have to go back to 1903 to include the Colt pocket pistol. And only a nutjob wouldn't go back to 1873 because up to the point of needing to reload the Colt is as good as anything you can get. So the oldest would be 153 years old as of now. Although while I'd carry up to a 153 year old without qualm I'd most likely go with 91 years max and go with the best looking gun ever created, the Hi-Power or with the first N-frame .357 as oldest options.
 
A full auto thompson sub machine gun .. exactly what I was thinking 🤠😁

S&W l Frames , K Frames , N Frames to include .44 Spl , .45acp , and .45 Colt .

Colt Detective Special ( plus a buncha other variants on same frame ) . SAA . 1911 .

All of the JMB pocket pistols ( in the context of the day ) variously Colt & Browning products . Plus Walther PP family .

Shotguns , Win 97 , M12 , Browning Auto 5 , Remington M11 , Rem M17 ( same patants as later Ithaca M37 ) , plus more other pumps , plus the whole spectrum of American Doubles .

Bolt Rifles . Remington 30 ( based on M1917 Enfield , but machined to look sleeker ) , Win M54 ( mechanically an M70 , but uglier ) , the underrated , but far ahead of its time , Savage M1920 ( plus Mausers , Manlichers , etc ).

Leverguns - Every classic model , caliber , and variation from Winchester and Marlin . Plus most Savage M99 variants .
 
My Broomhandle is due to arrive on Tuesday (I cant wait). So I sent an inquiry to a holster guy about a belt holster for it. The wood shoulder stock/holsters are nice; but they are more wood crate than holster. As a stock they work well enough, as as a place to store the gun, they arent too bad; just dont expect to draw the gun from it the same month that you start...

Im thinking a holster something like THIS:
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Once upon a time when I was young and $$ were scarce I kept a Lyman 1858 Remington Army .44 loaded in the nightstand. At the time the only other handguns I owned were .22’s. I shot competition regularly with Remington , it hit where I wanted it to, and a .457 round ball over 30 grains of 3F ignited by RWS caps worked well.
 
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