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Who remembers the first time they heard “Wonder Nine”

Warrior9(Ret)

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Hey y’all,
I think the first article I read about a “Wonder Nine” was in a Soldier of Fortune magazine. The pistol was the HK VP70. It got me exploring this new concept’s possibilities. That was way back when 👍

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It is actually the first polymer framed pistol, predating the Glock by at least a decade. But you are right the grip has sonething of a resemblance to the high points lol
It was also designed to be a machine pistol with 3rd burst capabilities; straight blowback, true DAO striker fired.

I’ve got a few…they’re quite fun to shoot, and surprisingly accurate.
 
The existence of double stack 9mm predates the use of the term Wondernine .

First heard of the term in conjunction with the French MAB PA-15 .

*By the time the term was in general usage * , there were enough flavors in common to semi common usage , that it was talking about a Class of pistols , not a specific one .

S&W M59 , Beretta M92 family , CZ-75 . Plus the above mentioned MAB and the Styer GB .

Plus , from early '70s to mid '80s , STAR and ASTRA , were really innovative , including several Wondernines . ( The first Wonderfortyfive was an Astra , but that's another rabbit hole .)

The Sig P226 was Intended to be a Wondernine , but born too close to the Glock and the New Paradaim .
 
I believe the term Wonder Nine was used for pistols with a double stack mag and DA/SA capability. Double stack 9s had been around a long time before the W9 term was invented.
As I recall, Col Cooper referred to them as "Crunchintickers" and wasn't too fond of them.
 
I posted this on another form and I didn't post the link so I'm not sure where I got it. Possibly Wikipedia


What is a Wonder Nine?
As a general rule, a wonder nine is a semiautomatic pistol which fires the 9 mm cartridge, and offers a number of features considered to be valuable for combat. These are generally not considered to be target guns. They are intended for combat use, and the emphasis is on firepower, safety, and readiness. The main features identifying these guns are:

Double column magazine, generally holding from a dozen to just under twenty cartridges.
Double action trigger system
Polymer, stainless, or alloy construction for ease of maintenance.
Some possible additional features for safety:
Hammer drop safety
Magazine safety
Double action only trigger

The true progenitor of this whole class of weapons was probably the S&W M-59, introduced in the early seventies to a luke warm reception. Though the M-59 did nothing really new, it did bring together for the first time, a number of features and design elements that had been floating around for decades. It had an alloy frame, which reduced concerns over field maintenance, and lessened the weight of the gun. It also had a double action trigger, a double column magazine which held fifteen rounds (two more than the High Power), a hammer drop safety similar to that of the P-38, and fired the newly popular 9 mm cartridge. None of these things were new, but the M-59 was the first to bring them all together in a single handgun. It was also the first reasonably priced handgun to offer any of these features, a distinction it was to retain for years. An M-59 sold for something like half the cost of a Browning High Power, or a 1911 Colt. The gun slowly gained popularity, and was adopted by several police departments, though no military service of which I am aware, ever used it. Within ten years of it's introduction, most other manufacturers were beginning to follow the formula of the M-59, giving birth to a series of handguns collectively known as the Wonder Nines.
 
I remember hearing that term first in the 1980's. In my mind I always associated it with the U.S. Army trial to replace the 45 - when the Beretta 92 was selected.
 
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