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seems that every time, well nearly every time a new handgun (semi-auto) comes out it's in a 9. sure 9 ammo is cheaper than 45 and pretty much all ammo, but how many times can the wheel be reinvented! i mean come on.......................sig, s/w, cz, beretta and whoever else is on the same sinking ship! give me something that's NOT in a 1911/2011 cause they're ALL the same with very little differences. i like what sig has done with their comp slides, but at least make 1 in 45 or 10 in a metal frame and go 4.5 and 5" instead of the 4" w/comp slide that's 226 length. i'll take a sao 220/226 version or a 2022 like s/w csx-e in 45 or 10.
 
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Why? It sells. . .
this leaves a good reason for aftermarket parts! but i can get tired of buying a halfass firearm that i'll be looking for upgrades, performance and/or anything else that needs to be changed. for ar's and ba's it's an easy button to do, but for revolvers (which are usually gtg) and semi's it's a different world. if i bought a hotrod 9mm @ $2k-5k i'd still be changing parts!
 
seems that every time, well nearly every time a new handgun (semi-auto) comes out it's in a 9. sure 9 ammo is cheaper than 45 and pretty much all ammo, but how many times can the wheel be reinvented! i mean come on.......................sig, s/w, cz, beretta and whoever else is on the same sinking ship! give me something that's NOT in a 1911/2011 cause they're ALL the same with very little differences. i like what sig has done with their comp slides, but at least make 1 in 45 or 10 in a metal frame and go 4.5 and 5" instead of the 4" w/comp slide that's 226 length. i'll take a sao 220/226 version or a 2022 like s/w csx-e in 45 or 10.
Couldn't have said it better!
 
I once had Glocks in all available calibers. Now I just have a G23.5 and a G27.5, both with Sig .357 barrels (and the availability of 9 barrels for same gun). One gun, 3 calibers!

That said, I’ve grown quite bored with the plastic fantastics and have gone back to buying/shooting DA/SA non-striker handguns…though the last three have been 9mm and one an FN Reflex, so plastic (but with an internal hammer). And one is a 9mm revolver, just recently released.

Just prior I picked up a couple of H&R .32 revolvers released over the last 6 months - so recently released, none 9mm guns.

And a Springfield AOS .45 within the last year, also a none 9mm.

I guess what I’m trying to say is there are some newly designed (or updated) guns available outside of 9mm. Though I will admit, 9mm is every company’s go to for new releases…and, as someone indirectly said above, demand dictates supply.

FWIW, I would buy a newly released, designed from the ground up, flush mount optic cut slide, .357 Sig caliber gun in a heartbeat, provided it’s not a Sig, is DA/SA hammer fired, preferably with a decocker, and is metal, not plastic. Since I know 90% of shooters will not pay for ammo that costs double or more of 9mm, I know that is a very unlikely gun to ever be designed/built.
 
I believe there is a logical, and quite natural reason. I think it is the Ar15 syndrome. As we get older and older new shooters get younger and younger in comparison. What we grew up with from our fathers and role models is not what they grow up with, and becomes thier vision when they think of , rifle, shotgun, handgun.

We, in our late 50s and 60s, grew up with traditional rifles, lever actions in westerns and hunting, pump action shotguns, bolt action rifles, even semi autos with box magazines but all basically wood traditional stocks. Handguns were mostly revolvers, but when it was a pistol it was often a 1911 in 45. That's what saved so many of our fathers, and yes us, in 4 wars.

Its an evolution. They are growing up with fathers and role models using pistols almost exclusively, 9mm handguns being the vast majority, Glocks being the poster child. Revolvers are almost a curiosity to many, and 9mm is perceived as being THE choice handgun round. Its also why 10mm is being considered as a good alternative to large bore revolvers for dangerous big game. Pistols are the chit, and revolvers not as good in younger eyes.

Rifles are smaller caliber, defensive, plastic and steel, pistol gripped, and multi caliber, even in big gane calibers. . Even more shotguns are pistol gripped but traditional lives on in sporting shotguns.

That's what thier fathers, and role models use for everything, its what they learned in the military and law enforcement, thus they know and buy accordingly, and the gun companies are well aware. Thst helps push thier manufacturing options.


Of course this is a generality, there will always be those who buck the trend, and they are the future hope for cartridges and guns chambered in .45 acp and other calibers, plus revolvers in general.

Just an opinion.
 
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Why? It sells. . .
Thats what they tell us about trucks. "Nobody will buy a basic stripped down work truck." Thats because the only truck you can find has every bell, whistle, and gizmo known to man. Same for handguns. Go to any shop, at least around here, and 80%+ of all handguns are striker fired, plastic. I don't buy my trucks or handguns online, my bad, I guess.
 
Thats what they tell us about trucks. "Nobody will buy a basic stripped down work truck." Thats because the only truck you can find has every bell, whistle, and gizmo known to man. Same for handguns. Go to any shop, at least around here, and 80%+ of all handguns are striker fired, plastic. I don't buy my trucks or handguns online, my bad, I guess.
Every pickup truck I've ever owned was bought brand new, but always the bottom end basic, no frills, bells, or whistle option work truck. The power train/engine option was always the most important thing for me. When I felt the need to add a little "bling" to my truck, I'd wait until the factory tires wore out and then replace them with some nice rims and better tires. And put on good quality seat covers and some Weathertech floor mats. That's about it.
 
A lot of people are just like sheep.
If manufacturers want to sell something new, just show it in a movie or advertise on tik-tok and all the millennials will flock to buy it, whether it is a firearm, vehicles or just an energy drink.
It amazes me when I go to the range and see all the shooters with extended magazines and AR-15's just doing mag dumps :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
The good news is, they're getting better and better at packing more punch into smaller frames. This is where 9mm shines. It really is the perfect carry round these days between gun tech & ammo tech. You can put a LOT of firepower on your belt in a very small and light package with 9mm. Love it or hate it, it really is a great defensive round for CCW. This doesn't take away anything from other calibers, though. 38/357, 380, 40, 45... whatever works best for you, carry it. As long as you carry! Any of this is better than a sharp stick. Hell, if I had to choose between 22LR and nothing, I'd take the 22, as I'm sure all of you would.
 
Thats what they tell us about trucks. "Nobody will buy a basic stripped down work truck." Thats because the only truck you can find has every bell, whistle, and gizmo known to man. Same for handguns. Go to any shop, at least around here, and 80%+ of all handguns are striker fired, plastic. I don't buy my trucks or handguns online, my bad, I guess.
Don’t forget that those plastic frames are also a ton cheaper to make-hence more profits per gun/more sales in total due to lower prices. It takes some work to make a metal frame, even more for a revolver. Plastic? You can mold them puppies by the million (ask Gaston). My son has a Steyr AUG-darn near the whole gun is plastic including the trigger, lock work and hammer😳. I’ll bet it doesn’t cost Steyr $400 to make that which they sell for $1800🙄
 
Saw this and thought of you. They made their 2k11 (double stack 1911 9mm) in 45. They heard ya

 
Capacity sells. But frankly history proves it is about time not capacity. In a gunfight, time is the key. A fatal shot delivered promptly is the key, not how many rounds in the mag. I spent decades worshipping at the alter of capacity, but as the timeclock proved I was better and faster with a revolver. Gents, let the time direct you!!!!
 
Should be an incapacitating shot. Your goal is to STOP the perp right now, a .22 may be lethal but if it doesn’t stop the bad guy until he’s done you in it hasn’t helped you. Too many folks have got hung up on the capacity thing - and it will never make up for a lack of skill. One round, promptly delivered will beat 15 sprayed into the general area.
 
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