PieterCoetzee
Professional
Maybe BUT he only shot 44Special loads. At least the new guys in Magnum Force carried Pythons with 357 LoadsNobody would have watched the Dirty Harry series if he had a hi-power.....
Why revolvers?
- Thread starter PAGunGuy
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In L.A.,we had to buy our own, as well as the holders. After a few years the department relented and purchased them for new hires.
Annihilator
Hellion
PAGunGuy
Custom
Terrible trigger pull in double action, ridiculously limited capacity and more difficult and timely reload
I ran tevokvers as a duty hunter in the 80ās and 90ās
Here is the main issue with why 1911ās were not accepted on a broad scale. Back in the day 1911ās wete pretty mill spec basic and had to be homey modified. Although they ran ball fine the JHP of the early days wete not so dependable.
The other item even in the older days the 1911 was looked at as a military gun (yea it was made in 38 Suoer for the late 20ās and 30ās auto bandits but wasn't widespread in LE circles) and carrying it ācocked and Lickedā wa escargot tj a lot of people and had a bad perception to peolme who were not addressed to it and there was not a large populace of people into personal protection and running many handguns other tjan
A revolver at the home in a drawer 22ās deer rifles and shotguns were way more popular
Wheelguns started having better sights by the 40ās (whenever they put adjustable from the factory aka Combat Masterpiece pre model 15 and the registered magnum from early in in 1935)
And the 38 just worked even in the day of SWC and RN non expanding bullets and as Pat Rogers of NYPD (RIP) said whem he showed the SWC load of NYPD and the younger polymer kids gasps and asked how they survived. Pat with his accent answers āit worked fine if you can shootā
The other issue cops were as a whole more shokters than cops are now. It wasnāt uncommon for incentives for rop marksmanship to be paid both financially and bragging rights there were A LOT of NRA Bullseye sockets in cars and sanctions PPC matches where accuracy by accuracy on a B8 won not accuracy by volume on a huge A or C zone.
Here is the main issue with why 1911ās were not accepted on a broad scale. Back in the day 1911ās wete pretty mill spec basic and had to be homey modified. Although they ran ball fine the JHP of the early days wete not so dependable.
The other item even in the older days the 1911 was looked at as a military gun (yea it was made in 38 Suoer for the late 20ās and 30ās auto bandits but wasn't widespread in LE circles) and carrying it ācocked and Lickedā wa escargot tj a lot of people and had a bad perception to peolme who were not addressed to it and there was not a large populace of people into personal protection and running many handguns other tjan
A revolver at the home in a drawer 22ās deer rifles and shotguns were way more popular
Wheelguns started having better sights by the 40ās (whenever they put adjustable from the factory aka Combat Masterpiece pre model 15 and the registered magnum from early in in 1935)
And the 38 just worked even in the day of SWC and RN non expanding bullets and as Pat Rogers of NYPD (RIP) said whem he showed the SWC load of NYPD and the younger polymer kids gasps and asked how they survived. Pat with his accent answers āit worked fine if you can shootā
The other issue cops were as a whole more shokters than cops are now. It wasnāt uncommon for incentives for rop marksmanship to be paid both financially and bragging rights there were A LOT of NRA Bullseye sockets in cars and sanctions PPC matches where accuracy by accuracy on a B8 won not accuracy by volume on a huge A or C zone.
Lab4Us
Professional
Counterpoint. If weāre comparing revolver to 1911, Iāll give you the trigger pull, but 6 rounds to a 1911 7 or 8 +1 kind of negates the capacity argument between the two. Heck, some revolvers have 7/8 round cylinders, theyāre just a bit heavy for carry (FOR ME).
Practice and speed loaders reduce reloading time/difficulty. NY carry can get you micro 9 size load out numbers (2 x J-frame revolver = 10-12 rounds).
As a civilian carrier who doesnāt have to go anywhere I donāt want, if I need more than 6 rounds, I obviously misjudged my situational awareness. I still carry spare rounds when carrying a revolver. All that said, I usually carry a SA TRP CC .45 with 7+1.
KillerFord1977
Emissary
Rekindled appreciation for revolvers 
Belt Fed
Emissary
That shouldn't even be classified as a revolver, i'm thinkin more like this. least it could be called a wheelgun
Annihilator
Hellion
Aim betterā¦ā¦..
The trigger pull weight and capacity argument always make me chuckle.
While strikers are great guns funny how we could hit C and 10 rings at 50 yards with wheelguns back in the day. But consumers want easy to shoot guns with a short trigger stroke and reset and shorter learning curve
As far as capacity that is an act of emotion for the most part as far as normal earth people that donāt kick in doors. If itās not over in 4-6 rounds you have failed and taht while multiple attacker fantasy is a myth. Sure thwre might be a group but thugs generally flee like the cockroaches they are at first shot. (Real bullet shot not to get confused with the blank round thread)
Retired Bum
Professional
You have proven your bias by continuing to challenge another's opinion. We get it, ya don't like revolvers. That's quite alright.
But you don't have to shoot them!
Now go play with your 1911s, and let others use what they like. It a semi-free country.
Go live well and enjoy, and the rest will do the same.
Peace.
FNFAN
Master Class
The Dodges and Plymouth's were fun to run code with until the second or third time you had to slow down to make a corner and you had little or no brakes. We never had Hemi's but the 440 was no slouch. When I started we still had a couple of the 74 Grand Furies and a 76 that were unmarked units. The Chrysler Newport's were probably the worst patrol cars and the little 79 Malibu's with the Corvette motor were my personal favorites -fast and turned on a dime with great brakes. I remember the city shops having to lift the motor off the mounts to service them until they got an add on part (or maybe a tool) that gave access to the oil filters. The square Impalas were great as were of course the Crown Vic's.
PAGunGuy
Custom
I do like revovlers.
My Heritage 22 comes with me for every range trip.
It is one of my favorites to shoot.
I have shot some nice revolves. Shooting in a static range, they are awesome.
Some day I will be a decent revolver in a real caliber.
But being active law enforcement, there is no way I would ever want to carry one on duty
Now what I don't like and do have a bias against, are Glocks.
Unfortunately, I do have to carry one on duty
PAGunGuy
Custom
I am talking about a law enforcement situation. There are several reasons why law enforcement officers carry the capacity they do, and reloads.
HayesGreener
SAINT
I carried 14 different handguns in 42 years as an LEO, and a few more after retirement while a working PI. Anout half of those guns were revolvers. About 10 years back I graduated to SIG SAO P220's and 1911's as my EDC.
As a young officer I felt pretty well armed with a S&W revolver and 18 rounds. Then the cocaine cowboys, and armed robbers started showing up with automatic weapons and we started thinking we needed more firepower in our holsters.
I trained many LEO's and civilians over the years. It is a fact that many, especially older civilians, have difficulty manipulating the action on semi auto pistols. For some, the ergonomics of the revolver are better, especially as compared to the awful ergonomics of the Glock. For some, the revolver is the best or only option for a carry gun. Revolvers still have their place and will be around for a long time to come. Or until we are all carrying phasers.
As a young officer I felt pretty well armed with a S&W revolver and 18 rounds. Then the cocaine cowboys, and armed robbers started showing up with automatic weapons and we started thinking we needed more firepower in our holsters.
I trained many LEO's and civilians over the years. It is a fact that many, especially older civilians, have difficulty manipulating the action on semi auto pistols. For some, the ergonomics of the revolver are better, especially as compared to the awful ergonomics of the Glock. For some, the revolver is the best or only option for a carry gun. Revolvers still have their place and will be around for a long time to come. Or until we are all carrying phasers.
Now THATās a revolver
Lab4Us
Professional
Heh, I would think youād prefer a semi or automatic long gun in those cases, vs ANYTHING in a holster.
One of my favorite āthatās dumbā moments in any police procedural drama is the cops engaging half a dozen (or more) gang/cartel machine guns with a couple of handgunsā¦that seemingly never need to be reloaded. Protect the public, sure. Via suicide? No thanks!
Never worked at one, but I would think in this day/age, major PDs have long guns in their cruisers as a matter of policy. And if responding to the sound of automatic gunfire, it would be habit to bring it when dismounting your vehicle.
HayesGreener
SAINT
I was taught that the shotgun was my primary weapon and the handgun was there in case you couldn't get to the shotgun. But you didn't bring a long gun on most traffic stops or minor crime reports. In recent years I have seen many cruisers with rifles in lieu of shotguns, and some with both in the gun mounts. That logically follows training in active shooter response. There is a big training tail for rifle training and proficiency qualifications. But back in my early days on the street, rifles in patrol vehicles was a rarity
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