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YOU Asked for it--WHY I LIKE THE SHOTGUN

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PieterCoetzee

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Ill start but you guys chime in. The combat shotgun excels in close-quarters environments due to its stopping power and psychological intimidation . It offers high hit probability and the ability to use specialty loads

Stopping Power: At close ranges, delivering multiple projectiles simultaneously creates massive trauma. The weapon boasts a significantly higher hit probability than submachine guns or assault rifles during fast-paced, high-stress encounters

I recently found some Winchester loads that have three pieces of 00 Buck and a round ball; but Im sorta wedded to traditional loads of Buck Shot, Number 2 being my favorite.
 
I have the first 2 rounds of my shotgun loaded with buck and ball. Then 3 rounds of buckshot. Side saddle has 4 more 00 buckshot rds and 3 slugs for just in case. The shotgun is an excellent weapon for home defense. I have a Remington 870 which was a police trade in but it’s in excellent condition. That’s ready to go along with an AR. I’m right there with you on loving the shotgun.
 
I watched the hybrid rounds of buck shot and ball/slug go so widly inaccurate it was crazy. Buck went one way and ball other. Hog stood there unphased. Nothing hit. Standing on gravel path. Ball Hit low and wide ny feet from target. 2 rounds. Buck went all over. We went back to pure buck followed by slugs
 
I think its important to understand that every weapon is Special Weapon. Combat Shotguns are meant to repel boarders and close encounters. I would add that I went through the whole Ghost Ring sight craze of trying to turn a shotgun into a rifle and knowing your pattern so you can shoot the Bad Guy but miss the Hostage and for me at least its BS! That being said, I have come into the 21st Century and see the merit of a Red Dot; but only for fast target acquisition.

With the right loads Shotguns can be devastating on flesh. To the folks that claim a birdshot load is perfect, I would humbly ask if penetration ever factored into their perfect decision... Penetration to the vitals is what kills and anything less leaves a wounded adversary whos still able to kill. 00Buck is the industry standard, with each of the 8 or 9 pieces being .32 caliber and with enough weight to penetrate deep enough.

I never understood the attempts to tighten the pattern in a gun meant for combat. I want a spread from a shotgun. During VietNam the DuckBill concept was introduced, effectively changing the circular pattern to a horizontal spread; which meant two or three targets could potentially be hit
 
Twelve-gauge, 3-inch 00 buckshot shells typically contain 12 to 15 pellets. That’s a minimal of 60 nine millimeter balls. So potentially in close quarters, shooting 5 rounds from a semi-auto shotgun can put twice as many shots on a target as I can with a 30 round mag from my Uzi in about the same amount of time. Just saying.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
I watched the hybrid rounds of buck shot and ball/slug go so widly inaccurate it was crazy
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Interesting at what range?

Recusant said:
Twelve-gauge, 3-inch 00 buckshot shells typically contain 12 to 15 pellets. That’s a minimal of 60 nine millimeter balls. So potentially in close quarters, shooting 5 rounds from a semi-auto shotgun can put twice as many shots on a target as I can with a 30 round mag from my Uzi in about the same amount of time. Just saying.
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YEP the Brits came to the same conclusion during their time in Malaysia. They started introducing the Auto 5 guns which lead to the Rhodesian pattern guns
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Heres a few pics from the web. The classic Rhodesian shotgun with the long forearm are cool but they all werent like that. Many (most?) were in a typical sporting configuration with a 22-26 barrel and standard magazine
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Because the platform can check so many boxes. My favorite is 12 gauge #4 buckshot wielded with a pumper.
 
Here is a Police Model Auto 5 for the BSAP British South African Police (think Rhodesian FBI)
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Same gun with rack marking showing it was assigned to the PATU (Police Anti Terrorist Unit) The PATU was a paramilitary auxiliary arm of the British South Africa Police (BSAP), for the Bush War. The unit tracked, located, and fought terrorist insurgents
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PieterCoetzee said:
Interesting at what range?


YEP the Brits came to the same conclusion during their time in Malaysia. They started introducing the Auto 5 guns which lead to the Rhodesian pattern guns
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Heres a few pics from the web. The classic Rhodesian shotgun with the long forearm are cool but they all werent like that. Many (most?) were in a typical sporting configuration with a 22-26 barrel and standard magazine
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range—. About 2O yards . Daylight. Gravel road. Watched all the dust kick up and hog wasn’t even close to getting hit. This is from a very accomplished shotgun shooter that has dropped hundreds of hogs with that shotgun with pure slugs or buckshot.
 
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