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You Need to Zero Your Pistol Redd Dot...But at What Distance?

Co-witness is massively overrated. If that’s your thing, fine, but with the right training you can easily manage without.
Im sure its a personal thing but for me co-witness sights are essential. I think it adds to the hit potential, as it gives three points instead of two for aiming (Rear sight / Front sight with a dot on top). It also means if the battery dies Ive still got a sight picture. When I change batteries I only have to look through the sights to confirm Im zeroed. with the irons.

Use whatever works for you
 
Im sure its a personal thing but for me co-witness sights are essential. I think it adds to the hit potential, as it gives three points instead of two for aiming (Rear sight / Front sight with a dot on top). It also means if the battery dies Ive still got a sight picture. When I change batteries I only have to look through the sights to confirm Im zeroed. with the irons.

Use whatever works for you
The problem most face with co-witnessing sights is being sight focused instead of target focused as you should be with a dot. If you are looking at the 3 sights, you're doing it wrong!
 
Here is an argument for a 25-yard zero. This is working with some assumptions:
  • 9mm or .40 S&W duty ammo
  • 3.5–5" barrel
  • Dot ~1" over bore
  • Zeroed at 25 yards
Ballpark POI:
Approximate POI with a 25-yard zero
3–5 yards: (Honestly, at this distance I'm not using the dot, or irons for that matter)
→ ~–0.9 to –1.2" low
10 yards: (Honestly, at this distance I'm still not using the dot, or irons for that matter, unless time allows)
→ ~–0.5 to –0.8" low
15 yards: (Here is where the dot starts to earn it's keep, but irons are as good or better)
→ ~–0.2 to –0.4" low
25 yards: (Okay, dot wins. Hands down. It is now worth it's weight in gold)
→ Zero
50 yards: (Okay, dot wins. Hands down. It is now worth it's weight in gold, I have done this as well. Ring steel all day)
→ ~–1 to –2" low
100 yards: (Still dot for the win. I don't do this as much but easily multiple times more accurate at this range with dots)
→ ~–6 to –10" low

So why do 25 since you can adjust with a 7, 10, 12 or 15 yard zero?​

Three reasons:

1. It’s legacy doctrine​

LE and military pistol quals were written decades ago around 25 yards. We always start or finish at 25. Paper targets, iron sights, long firing lines. Dots, for me, just inherited that tradition.

2. It stretches your practical distance​

If you ever need real accuracy past 40–50 yards (think perimeter work, barricades, active shooter across a courtyard), the 25-yard zero gives me:
  • Less drop
  • Less guessing
  • Less “aim at his hairline and pray”
*This is where 25 wins for me.

3. Easier to confirm mechanically​

At 25 yards, tiny alignment errors show up. At 10 or 15, you can be sloppy and still think you’re dialed in.
 
Hi,

Guys, what a great discussion. I imagine that, as I get more familiar with my optics, I will make adjustments that fit my mission. That's it. Just wanted to let you know that I love you all. ❤️


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Im sure its a personal thing but for me co-witness sights are essential. I think it adds to the hit potential, as it gives three points instead of two for aiming (Rear sight / Front sight with a dot on top). It also means if the battery dies Ive still got a sight picture. When I change batteries I only have to look through the sights to confirm Im zeroed. with the irons.

Use whatever works for you
I’ve learned a technique that was taught to use the top of the dot frame as impromptu aim point for close in.
Did drills with dot turned off at 7-10 yards.
You can quickly learn to make A zone hits without even bothering with the dot or “cowitness” thing.
Frame comes in view of target area.. “bang!”. “A” zone hits all day
 
I’ve learned a technique that was taught to use the top of the dot frame as impromptu aim point for close in.
Did drills with dot turned off at 7-10 yards.
You can quickly learn to make A zone hits without even bothering with the dot or “cowitness” thing.
Frame comes in view of target area.. “bang!”. “A” zone hits all day
Nice info
 
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