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The M13 Aircrewman Revolver, Part I

Good article. I was in for the transition from Model 15 to M9 and stay in contact with fokks since the M18 issue. The Sig is carried round in chambers full mag in and weapon on fire like they did the M9.

Also the USAF stated issuing JHP 9mm at stateside bases in 1999 at first we ran 124 gr Federal Hi Shok and now a 147 JHP (I am unsure of make/brand but probably Gold Dot G2)

Article was Interesting as an AF guy trained in Model 15’s didn’t know about the M13 designation. Knew about the Model 12’s that they made special anemic ammo (M41 ball) for because they couldn’t handle normal 38 Special

One of the reasons the AF went to Model 15’s was General LeMay . He was an avid target shooter and had just purchased M16’s (the AF was the first branch to buy M16’s and The AF never upgraded to the A1)

I was in from 86-93 and we were very revolver centric and shot PPC matches about every Saturday through the summers. So much so the squadron CC allowed us to sign out our model 15’s to represent the squadron.

Several of us kept the Model 15’s after the M9 arrived as we were given the choice. Deployed to support Desert Storm ops in 1991 with a Model 15 as a secondary

Great times
 
I’m a big fan of the Model 12. I like to call mine Aircrewman, even though I know they’re not.

I have one of the aluminum cylinder 12s which is almost identical to an Aircrewman.
No, I have not shot it, nor will I.

That gun has to be held to understand how light it is. On paper, there is only maybe four ounces difference from a steel cylinder gun, which doesn’t seem like a lot.
When you hold them, it feels like a lot.

On my scale, the aluminum cylinder M12 weighs 14.99oz, empty.
My J frame Centennial 442 weighs 14.43oz, empty.
Half an ounce difference and it’s a SIX SHOT K FRAME.

I have mine, but am still eagerly and not very patiently hoping for a reintroduction of the Model 12, or an updated version (Scandium?) with the Ultimate Carry treatment. The 315 NightGuard was pretty much it, but that model appeared and disappeared practically overnight. All it did was leave a lot of us asking “What the hell?”
 
BarryinIN said:
I’m a big fan of the Model 12. I like to call mine Aircrewman, even though I know they’re not.

I have one of the aluminum cylinder 12s which is almost identical to an Aircrewman.
No, I have not shot it, nor will I.

That gun has to be held to understand how light it is. On paper, there is only maybe four ounces difference from a steel cylinder gun, which doesn’t seem like a lot.
When you hold them, it feels like a lot.

On my scale, the aluminum cylinder M12 weighs 14.99oz, empty.
My J frame Centennial 442 weighs 14.43oz, empty.
Half an ounce difference and it’s a SIX SHOT K FRAME.

I have mine, but am still eagerly and not very patiently hoping for a reintroduction of the Model 12, or an updated version (Scandium?) with the Ultimate Carry treatment. The 315 NightGuard was pretty much it, but that model appeared and disappeared practically overnight. All it did was leave a lot of us asking “What the hell?”
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Whil I am not studying gun sites I am always looking to find a USAF marked Model 15.

The majority of ours were 15-2’s surw thwre were skne newer -3 or 4’s as some were marked and some were not.

We also had some that had Parke roses finish and some were that deep blue lkke one you’d see with typical S&W revolver
 
ECS686 said:
Whil I am not studying gun sites I am always looking to find a USAF marked Model 15.

The majority of ours were 15-2’s surw thwre were skne newer -3 or 4’s as some were marked and some were not.

We also had some that had Parke roses finish and some were that deep blue lkke one you’d see with typical S&W revolver
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Finding some of the grips with the USAF medallion would be nice.
 
BarryinIN said:
I’m a big fan of the Model 12. I like to call mine Aircrewman, even though I know they’re not.

I have one of the aluminum cylinder 12s which is almost identical to an Aircrewman.
No, I have not shot it, nor will I.

That gun has to be held to understand how light it is. On paper, there is only maybe four ounces difference from a steel cylinder gun, which doesn’t seem like a lot.
When you hold them, it feels like a lot.

On my scale, the aluminum cylinder M12 weighs 14.99oz, empty.
My J frame Centennial 442 weighs 14.43oz, empty.
Half an ounce difference and it’s a SIX SHOT K FRAME.

I have mine, but am still eagerly and not very patiently hoping for a reintroduction of the Model 12, or an updated version (Scandium?) with the Ultimate Carry treatment. The 315 NightGuard was pretty much it, but that model appeared and disappeared practically overnight. All it did was leave a lot of us asking “What the hell?”
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I have always been on the lookout for a M12. A reintroduced model 12 would be great.

I may just have to settle for my 340PD.
 
BarryinIN said:
Finding some of the grips with the USAF medallion would be nice.
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I never have seen or heard about USAF marked grips we had either the plain S&W marked grips or most of us had Pachmyr or Hogie with the Pachmyr Jordan’s being super popular.

The SAC elite gate guard ran white grips and cross draw for a long time .believw the went to regular holster in the 8”’s but not sure.

We were issued standard strong side Jordan Border Patrol style holsters.

We also were allowed to run Safariland Comp 2’s and split six holders or some used simple dunp pouches and bianchi strips



Here are a few pics along with General LeMay
 

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