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I'm old. In my youth I hunted quite often in HS until I left for college. That was 99% hunting with a shotgun. Won't get into all the reasons but we had an intruder in our garage two weeks ago. I sold my 12 gauge and two .22 rifles were given to my nephew. So I went outside armed with my cell phone. It was then that I decided to buy a gun. I bought a Sars USA 9 mm Sport model from Cabelas after doing a bunch of research and watching several videos. It will be adequate. I have had some experience with a handgun, a 45 from WWII that was actually quite primitive compared to this 9 mm.... I will get to the point. I have read the owner's manual several times. I have watched videos about its use and cleaning etc.... I am informed... I am taking this slow, and although I understand most of what they are saying, and the owner's manual was decent but still leaves me with questions when they change the name of different parts of the gun and make some assumptions about what most avid gun owners would know... I don't.....

What I would like to ask is if there is someone reading this that owns a Sars 9mm Sport that I can ask a few questions to in an email or on this site? I have tried to google the questions I have and they come up short..... I am not in a hurry for any of this information and bought the gun because it was the right deal at the right time...

I don't have a ton of questions but would like to be able to just ask someone knowledgeable about the intricacies of this gun... I would apprecaite any help/advice I can get.... and yes, times have changed dramatically since I hunted and shot guns regularly back in the 60s.....

Thanks for your time!!!

Professor
 
professor229 said:
I'm old. In my youth I hunted quite often in HS until I left for college. That was 99% hunting with a shotgun. Won't get into all the reasons but we had an intruder in our garage two weeks ago. I sold my 12 gauge and two .22 rifles were given to my nephew. So I went outside armed with my cell phone. It was then that I decided to buy a gun. I bought a Sars USA 9 mm Sport model from Cabelas after doing a bunch of research and watching several videos. It will be adequate. I have had some experience with a handgun, a 45 from WWII that was actually quite primitive compared to this 9 mm.... I will get to the point. I have read the owner's manual several times. I have watched videos about its use and cleaning etc.... I am informed... I am taking this slow, and although I understand most of what they are saying, and the owner's manual was decent but still leaves me with questions when they change the name of different parts of the gun and make some assumptions about what most avid gun owners would know... I don't.....

What I would like to ask is if there is someone reading this that owns a Sars 9mm Sport that I can ask a few questions to in an email or on this site? I have tried to google the questions I have and they come up short..... I am not in a hurry for any of this information and bought the gun because it was the right deal at the right time...

I don't have a ton of questions but would like to be able to just ask someone knowledgeable about the intricacies of this gun... I would apprecaite any help/advice I can get.... and yes, times have changed dramatically since I hunted and shot guns regularly back in the 60s.....

Thanks for your time!!!

Professor
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While I don’t own a SAR, my indoor range had one to rent, I liked how it felt and shot, but this was a full size pistol, to me, very well made gun
 
Hi,

professor229 said:
I'm old. In my youth I hunted quite often in HS until I left for college. That was 99% hunting with a shotgun. Won't get into all the reasons but we had an intruder in our garage two weeks ago. I sold my 12 gauge and two .22 rifles were given to my nephew. So I went outside armed with my cell phone. It was then that I decided to buy a gun. I bought a Sars USA 9 mm Sport model from Cabelas after doing a bunch of research and watching several videos. It will be adequate. I have had some experience with a handgun, a 45 from WWII that was actually quite primitive compared to this 9 mm.... I will get to the point. I have read the owner's manual several times. I have watched videos about its use and cleaning etc.... I am informed... I am taking this slow, and although I understand most of what they are saying, and the owner's manual was decent but still leaves me with questions when they change the name of different parts of the gun and make some assumptions about what most avid gun owners would know... I don't.....

What I would like to ask is if there is someone reading this that owns a Sars 9mm Sport that I can ask a few questions to in an email or on this site? I have tried to google the questions I have and they come up short..... I am not in a hurry for any of this information and bought the gun because it was the right deal at the right time...

I don't have a ton of questions but would like to be able to just ask someone knowledgeable about the intricacies of this gun... I would apprecaite any help/advice I can get.... and yes, times have changed dramatically since I hunted and shot guns regularly back in the 60s.....

Thanks for your time!!!

Professor
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Welcome to the forum! I'll let you in on a little secret, a lot of us are getting old. Some older than others ;)

Feel free to ask your questions right here. I have found this bunch to be knowledgeable, helpful, and friendly - even to this old bass player. :LOL:

Thank you for that quick introduction. I hope you stick around and get to know us. Me? After a few decades away from the sport, I have been training, practicing, and growing my collection since the summer of 2020. Others here have been involved for 50 years or more. I am a self-diagnosed Springfield fan boy but own a few others as well, even a Glock. :p

It seems the SAR9 line is a decent bang-for-your-buck series of pistols that share many features with modern striker fired handguns. It should serve you well. Did 'Honest Outlaw' call it a cross between an HK and a Glock? I've thought about adding one to my collection just because of the value and good reviews.

Anyway, glad to have you here. Ask away. With field stripping, cleaning, manipulating the controls, upgrades, etc, these folks have been very helpful to this old noob. That's for sure.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Welcome! The folks here have a vast pool of knowledge and almost certain someone here will be able to answer your question . Sorry about your recent scary experience but perhaps that will save you from a more serious issue down the road. PLEASE get yourself to a range and shoot that pistol-a Lot. Do it until you are both proficient with it and it’s proven its reliability with whatever ammo you intend to keep it loaded with. After that’s been accomplished make a plan/schedule to return to the range on Some regular basis to maintain your skill set. Shooting IS a perishable skill. The best shot around, if he doesn’t shoot for a year or two will NOTbe as good/accurate as he was. If, God forbid, you should ever need to defend yourself/family you desperately want to be able to place a round where you want it to go, under stress. Good luck and have fun learning your “new” skill.
 
BassCliff said:
Hi,



Welcome to the forum! I'll let you in on a little secret, a lot of us are getting old. Some older than others ;)

Feel free to ask your questions right here. I have found this bunch to be knowledgeable, helpful, and friendly - even to this old bass player. :LOL:

Thank you for that quick introduction. I hope you stick around and get to know us. Me? After a few decades away from the sport, I have been training, practicing, and growing my collection since the summer of 2020. Others here have been involved for 50 years or more. I am a self-diagnosed Springfield fan boy but own a few others as well, even a Glock. :p

It seems the SAR9 line is a decent bang-for-your-buck series of pistols that share many features with modern striker fired handguns. It should serve you well. Did 'Honest Outlaw' call it a cross between an HK and a Glock? I've thought about adding one to my collection just because of the value and good reviews.

Anyway, glad to have you here. Ask away. With field stripping, cleaning, manipulating the controls, upgrades, etc, these folks have been very helpful to this old noob. That's for sure.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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I re-read the manual again several times..... and I need to go back and highlight the sentences that I are "vague" and don't say anything about "why" to do this or don't do this.... I'll get back to you (everybody) after I highlight the two/three sentences about field stripping the gun..... thanks for your advice/help.... Prof
 
Good morning... I did some homework and read through the owner's manual one more time and put a "star" by each statement that most gun owners would probably understand but I simply don't...... or need clarification.... thanks for any help you can give me to understand all this.... I appreciate the help.....

First...... a lot of questions about the safety on the gun.... and the manual does a poor job because it does not explain/show when the safety is "on" or "off".... and you even have to search to find out where the safety is located and then IF the gun even has one... At least one model of the SAR line does not even have a safey.... My safety, according to the picture, is a horizontal bar located in back of the magazine/clip release... It shows one position.... completely horizontal.... so is that safety on? I doubt it... to me it makes sense the the lever would be in a downward pointing position and then your thumb would push it up to fire... the weapon.... have I got this right?

Then the manual says... "Safety is only activated when striker is cocked. Do not try to change the position to safe if not cocked." Please clarify... does that mean that I need to pull the slide back and release and is that what they mean by the word "cocked?"

The manual discusses ammunition.... I bought a box of 9 mm Blazer 124 grain...... Is Blazer a quality name for ammunition? The 124 grain is the same price as the target grain they have too... why would I buy target specs when I can get the better/higher grain for the same price?

Then they warn about using "over pressurized" ammunition... Can the average consumer even buy anything that would be considered "over pressurized" as the local big box stores like Fleet Farm?

Finally.... cleaning the gun and field stripping it... I understand but it mentions, as always, releasing the clip and pulling back the slide to make sure a round is not in the chamber..... Then, point the gun in a safe direction and pull the trigger first, and depress the buttons on the sides to remove the slide... On some guns I have owned, you had to pull the trigger and keep the trigger held while removing the slide... is that true of a Sars? Or is it just simply a pull the trigger kind of a deal to make sure the firing pin is out of the picture to remove the slide?

Again..... novice questions.... but I would rather ask before I try to field strip the handgun... The manual likes to mention, several times, about doing something wrong and voiding the warranty... I understand that... but.... it gets kinda old too....

Thanks again for your help..... and information......

Prof
 
does your SAR safety look like this one..??

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then, up it is on


the Blazer ammo is good, but i usually buy 115 grain..but for the same price as 124 grain, sure why not.

over pressurized ammo "could mean"...........no reloads..??? or maybe P+.....ammo..???

always make sure to pull back the slide, to check for a round in the chamber...

then rotate the slide lock to well unlock the slide for removal.

pulling the trigger helps release the slide

what is this "clip" you keep mentioning...???

do you mean MAGAZINE...???? clips are in certain rifles.....magazines are in all semi-automatic handguns
 
Hi,

professor229 said:
First...... a lot of questions about the safety on the gun.... and the manual does a poor job because it does not explain/show when the safety is "on" or "off".... and you even have to search to find out where the safety is located and then IF the gun even has one... At least one model of the SAR line does not even have a safey.... My safety, according to the picture, is a horizontal bar located in back of the magazine/clip release... It shows one position.... completely horizontal.... so is that safety on? I doubt it... to me it makes sense the the lever would be in a downward pointing position and then your thumb would push it up to fire... the weapon.... have I got this right?
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In general, when the safety is pointed forward it is in the "fire" position. Mr. @Old_Me put up a great picture of the safety in the "safe" position.


professor229 said:
Then the manual says... "Safety is only activated when striker is cocked. Do not try to change the position to safe if not cocked." Please clarify... does that mean that I need to pull the slide back and release and is that what they mean by the word "cocked?"
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Yes, you rack the slide to "cock" the striker and put it into firing position. This basically simulates putting a round in the chamber. I suppose the designers of this pistol thought there would be no need to engage the safety if there is no round in the chamber.

professor229 said:
The manual discusses ammunition.... I bought a box of 9 mm Blazer 124 grain...... Is Blazer a quality name for ammunition? The 124 grain is the same price as the target grain they have too... why would I buy target specs when I can get the better/higher grain for the same price?

Then they warn about using "over pressurized" ammunition... Can the average consumer even buy anything that would be considered "over pressurized" as the local big box stores like Fleet Farm?
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I usually train with 124 grain 9mm but only because that is the same weight as the self defense ammo I use. I want to be consistent. The 115 grain might be a little softer shooting but most people can't really tell much of a difference between 115 and 124 grain.

Blazer Brass is fine training ammo. I also use Sellier&Bellot, Remington, PMC, Fiocchi, and Federal.

Some guns are rated for "over pressurized" ammo. This is usually labeled as '+P' or '+P+' and has a higher powder charge in the cartridge. This will give you a little extra muzzle velocity and a bigger bang. Personally, I'm not sure the extra juice is worth the squeeze. The shorter barrels of pistols might not allow the extra powder to burn before the bullet exits the muzzle.

professor229 said:
Finally.... cleaning the gun and field stripping it... I understand but it mentions, as always, releasing the clip and pulling back the slide to make sure a round is not in the chamber..... Then, point the gun in a safe direction and pull the trigger first, and depress the buttons on the sides to remove the slide... On some guns I have owned, you had to pull the trigger and keep the trigger held while removing the slide... is that true of a Sars? Or is it just simply a pull the trigger kind of a deal to make sure the firing pin is out of the picture to remove the slide?
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Yes, release the *magazine*, lock the slide back, and inspect the chamber to ensure there is no ammo in the gun before field stripping and cleaning.

Depending on the design, sometimes you have to pull the trigger to release the slide, sometimes you don't. The Sars trigger must be pulled, the striker must be in the "uncocked" position in order for the slide to release. Maybe these videos will help. This first video shows the safety in the "fire" position.



This is the manufacturer's cleaning video. This guy goes into some detail.




Well now, hopefully I haven't added to your confusion. Keep us informed. Sorry the instruction manual is not as informative as it could be. Maybe it loses something in the translation. The Turks make pretty nice guns but their English might not be so good. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Good afternoon.... First.... thanks for all the answers... they were perfect.... just some random thoughts... Yes, the Turkish owner's manual assumed a few things that left me asking more questions... but overall, it is well written and the English was decent unlike many of the Chinese manuals I got in the past.... And yes, I get hooked on calling it a "clip" instead of a "magazine".... old habits die hard.... The first video I had not seen before but the second, longer video, I have watched several times... The first short video gave me a lot of answers but like all videos, the camera was moved at a key point in time as there was another "click" but it was not in the frame... I suspect it was him releasing the magazine.... but otherwise it was easy enough to watch... and learn.... The picture of the "saftey" being horizontal meaning ready to fire is where it has been since I bought it... intuitively, I thought putting the safety "on" would have been by pulling it down so that your thumb could push it up quickly to fire..... I am not sure I will ever be using the safety all that much... I never have with any of my guns over the years... The ammunition at Fleet Farm made no sense as far as price goes.... but then again, what they had on the shelf was primarily name brand boxes..... very recognizable and reputable companies.... I won't be reloading these but I did reload all my shotgun loads many years ago....

I think I am close to trying my first cleaning of the gun as recommended before firing.... I have the gun in its case and that case and another auxiliary case like a shaving kit bag to hold all the peripheral stuff is locked in a gun safe on my bedroom closet top shelf..... 7 grandkids... enough said? I will take it down later this week when an "easy loader" arrives so I can try that at the same time.... and at the same time, field strip the gun and clean it.... ironic... in all the years I owned guns I never had a misfire or jam, but, I have to consider too, that my .22s were a bolt action and a single shot youth gun... and the shotgun I used was a Sears (Remington) 12 gauge pump bought in 1971......

Thanks again for all your help... Do you have any other last minute suggestions for me? or things I should consider???

Prof......
 
professor229 said:
Thanks again for all your help... Do you have any other last minute suggestions for me? or things I should consider???

Prof......
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make sure NO ammo near the gun or on the cleaning table

use rubber/latex gloves, to prevent any possible skin irritations, but to also avoid gun powder residue that might have lead, seep into your skin.

make sure no other people are in the room with you for the time being at least, so you can concentrate on field stripping and reassembly

DO NOT SMOKE when cleaning any gun, many products are flammable

along with the usual gun cleaning kits you might buy, in time, you won't need a kit, you can build your own, with Q-Tips, blue shop paper towels (last longer), automotive rags (the 14x14 squared ones), i lay 1 or 2 down on my bench to keep the bench "cleaner" and to absorb the fluids..and can be washed several times, they last nearly forever.

buy your own gun cleaning "bag" something like this maybe, at walmart, harbor freight, home depot, etc...

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holds everything you need and use...$20.00 at walmart.
 
Old_Me said:
make sure NO ammo near the gun or on the cleaning table

use rubber/latex gloves, to prevent any possible skin irritations, but to also avoid gun powder residue that might have lead, seep into your skin.

make sure no other people are in the room with you for the time being at least, so you can concentrate on field stripping and reassembly

DO NOT SMOKE when cleaning any gun, many products are flammable

along with the usual gun cleaning kits you might buy, in time, you won't need a kit, you can build your own, with Q-Tips, blue shop paper towels (last longer), automotive rags (the 14x14 squared ones), i lay 1 or 2 down on my bench to keep the bench "cleaner" and to absorb the fluids..and can be washed several times, they last nearly forever.

buy your own gun cleaning "bag" something like this maybe, at walmart, harbor freight, home depot, etc...

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holds everything you need and use...$20.00 at walmart.
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All good info except the gloves, never used any in all my years cleaning or reloading, just sayin
 
Annihilator said:
Rubbers….don’t need no rubber gloves to clean guns……40 years of cleaning guns and no irritation……
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i have eczema, so there is that, and my lead level shot up to over 33 points when i first started this sport..??

cuz i was buying cheap and abundant reloaded lead ammo..........

my lead level is down to 9 something as of my last blood test last year.

so i started wearing gloves, and haven't stopped.

even reloading and i am using copper coated bullets.

this the spent primers making a mess as they fall into the catch cup...that screwed up my Lee press......

all that black is from the spent primers, falling into the drop tube, and you might be able to see the remains of primer dust around that allen screw....


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Hi,

professor229 said:
The first video I had not seen before but the second, longer video, I have watched several times... The first short video gave me a lot of answers but like all videos, the camera was moved at a key point in time as there was another "click" but it was not in the frame... I suspect it was him releasing the magazine....
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Yes, that extra click you heard was the slide moving forward after the take-down lever had been released. The recoil spring puts tension on the slide when the slide is moved to the rear. Once the trigger is pulled and the take-down lever is manipulated, the recoil spring will pull the slide forward a bit. Then you'll have to grab the slide and pull it off the frame.

I don't use toxic products for cleaning. I recommend Shooter Lube for most jobs. However, I may start using gloves. My last blood work showed my lead level at the high end of what's recommended (16). I don't reload, yet. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
The best advice I can give is to NOT have any ammo in the room.
Then play with it like it's a shinny new toy.
Dry fire it, use the safety, field strip it.
Do this alot.
But never do that again after you get to know the gun.

Consider acquiring a rapid safe to put it in.
Don't want to be fumbling around getting it out of 2 cases, a closet and God knows what else is in the way.
When you need a gun, you need a gun.
A rapid type safe is fairly quick and you could mount it besides your chair of you wish to.

I don't own the sport model but I do own the SAR9.
 
Ohh and another thing, you can own more than 1 gun.
I think they make those rapid type safe thingers for shotguns.
You could mount one behind the door leading to the garage.
12 gauge more better than a handgun, you already said you used to hunt shotgun when younger.
It would be familiar.
 
Thanks.... This was a tough decision to make.... and although I owned three guns at one time, I also owned a large baseball bat.... but as I have gotten older now, that is no longer an option. The final straw was the garage intrusion about month ago and my wife decided that she needed to talk to her cousin... and found out she owned a handgun..... I started doing the research. In a way I wish I had bought the .38 police special at Fleet Farm... but I will make this work. I ordered a holster just for convenience... and an easy loader as well... and I need to spend some time with this.... everybody... thanks for the advice, suggestions, and help....
 
Good afternoon.... I thought I would send a couple pictures of the storage ..... I was pleasantly surprised that the Sars case came with the handgun.... but when we got to Cabellas the kid brought the case/gun out so it was part of the deal... saved a couple of bucks.... I had ordered a lockable case for important papers/whatever a year ago... and then I bought a Masterforce tool bag at a garage sale last summer for a whole dollar.... as it turned out, the Masterforce case and Sars gun case both fit perfectly in the lockable suit case.... and that suitcase fits well on the top shelf of the closet where the grandkids cannot get to it and if they do they have to defeat the digital lock.... When I was in high school a long time ago we had lockers with locks and would always have them set so that you had to only move the dial to the third and final number... the same is true of this suitcase... just in case I would need to get to the gun in a hurry.... My elderly Father always kept his loaded 45 in the nightstand next to his bed...... I don't plan on ever carrying this gun because that requires a class to get the permit but I do have the time to take that class.... I just don't ever see a need for that though.... If I did it would be for "something to do" ...... so far, I have everything I need... and ordered a cheap nylon holster for it also.... Now to find somewhere to practice shooting it.... Thanks again for all the tips/advice/suggestions..... I think I am ready to put all this information to work....
 

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"Somewhere to shoot it"
How familiar are you with your local law enforcement?
Those guys around here would likely help you to either find a place to practice or even help you shoot.
Or set you up with someone that will.

The Sheriff's dept here do their drills out on blm land.
Back in the day, I have had 5 or 6 deputies drive to where I was shooting to do drills.
Did send me into the ol, (what could I have possibly done to deserve this sort of law) thing the first time that happened.
 
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