It's starting to veer slightly off the original topic of this thread, but I am kinda fond of 308 Winchester in a bolt action with a lightweight. I had, at one time about four of them. One was a Ruger "Scout" rifle, the others were Remington 700s with Remington's standard lightweight barrel. I had a local 'smith cut them back to 18". I now have only one of them (one of the Rem 700s) left now. Too many trades! At any rate, since I handload, I'm also fond of downloading the 308 to just above 30-30 level velocities with 130 grain (I know, not a standard 30-30 bullet weight) and 150 grain bullets. It is a lot of fun to shoot these, and a lot more pleasant recoil and muzzle blast wise. It is effective on game to just a bit longer range than a 30-30 round, and a heck of a lot easier to get hits with. I call it my bolt-action "thutty-thutty".
300 Blackout vs .308 Win: Which Round Reigns Supreme in AR-15s?
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KillerFord1977
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LOL, yep. i'm backin out. but i wasn't condemning the 300 just what i would choose. i like both of them.That went sideways fast…..
Yeah, the 300 BLK needs to go the opposite direction on buffer weight. One that's properly gassed doesn't like the heavier buffers. Probably not even with a suppressor.
All the .300blk AR barrels that I'm aware of have a pistol length gas system no matter the length. I haven't come across anything else.
Yep. We have to keep a steady stream of this addictive gun stuff appropriate for the younger ones. We give 'em their first few boxes of ammo free! Once they're hooked we can move 'em up to the hard core stuff.
There's a few 14.5" and 16" ones out there that have the carbine length system. However they gotta have a heck-uv-a-large gas port (relative to a 5.56/223 barrel of equal length) to function correctly. That said, for 300 BLK a pistol length gas system is not out of place even on a 16" barrel. (Again, keep in mind that everything I write here is heresay. I have no first hand experience, just a TON of reading, asking questions, etc.)
Ive put together a lot of .300blk pistols and rifles.
Awesome! I've done a lot of 5.56/223s in all sizes and shapes. Sounds like you have quite a bit of hands-on 300 BLK experience.
If you don't mind, could you share your "worst experience ever" in putting together a 300 BLK and having issues getting it to run? I realize that you might not have had such, but everyone I've talked with who has put together more than a few of them has at least one horror story of the frankengunfromhell that would not yield to their ministrations.
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This Bilson pistol is a 300 blk and has a h3 buffer in it
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EXACTLY why I just stick with my highly reliable, sexy looking, yet VERY deadly Hi - Point rather than fool around with all your 300 308 super / subsonic craziness. This thing'll kill anything I aim it at. An Army tank, a hog, Kristi Noem's mutt.......That went sideways fast…..
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Onewolf426
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Ill have to check the 16" i have, but I'm fairly sure it's carbine length
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You'd be surprised even though most loads use 296, h110, 4227 and similar powders regardless the bullet weights
I haven't encountered any problems with .300blk builds before. I typically use mid to higher grade parts in my builds also to avoid tolerance issues.
I was just reading some stuff online and carbine length gas system barrels can be found and typically work fine for .300blk but can have issues under 16in. The 16in barrels I've used are all pistol length gas systems. These 16in barrels are Wilson, BA, and Faxon and maybe one or two more different brands.
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