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This is why Trump doesn't notify Congress first

The perp's lawyer citing youtube and podcasts by former operators is crap. If youtube was a valid testimony of these guys and they spilled the beans it would have been a target rich environment for the FBI. As it is, probably 75% is BS. She is not a whistle blower or a leaker, she just has an axe to grind against Delta. She should be charged with espionage, and I would really like to see her official position in Delta Force. If I translate the article it looks like a staff weenie at HQ.
 
What I would like to see happen to any and all who commit treasonous acts against our nation and endanger those serving would get me...
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Give her a spot on the wall with a cigarette and a blindfold. Right next to the reporter, editor, and anyone else involved with publishing this story. "Freedom of the Press" Does NOT give the press the right to publish or immunity from prosecution for exposing classified documents.

“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”

“I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are.”

“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast.”

William Tecumseh Sherman​

 
Folks constantly see Congress critters running to the microphone and TV cameras immediately after every “closed door” meeting to discuss things they shouldn’t or to disparage leaders. It’s no wonder many other citizens outside of Congress think it OK for them to do the same.

And I get the 1st Amendment, however when media crosses the line by trying to solicit classified information through questions they know the people they are interviewing would have to break the law to answer…well, I think there should be consequences!
 
People knew about the Manhattan Project but didnt talk. Only the Rosenburgs talked and that was AFTER the war, and they paid for their treason

There used to be an America First attitude but that fadded away when life got too easy and welfare and the immigration invasion
 
I agree with everyone, I hate traitors, but I have to shake my head at this. Sounds like Confidential TTPs (most of which you'll see in the moves) being made for political hay, now, I'd be concerned if he had been keeping boxes of Top Secret documents in his bathroom at home. As to an excuse for not informing Congress, how did that leap get made, from a past employee to Congress?

BTW, how does this hypocrisy relate to firearms? Doesn't Reddit have forums for the 39%?
 
Ozarker said:
I hate traitors, but I have to shake my head at this. Sounds like Confidential TTPs
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The (B)witch put the life of a downed airman at risk! It is not just about the secrets she has been leaking for years. How about putting her in a brown fur coat, duct taping antlers to her head and run her through the woods during deer season. Give that :censored: a new appreciation for her actions!
 
Having dealt personally with the media, I regard them as the most vile, dishonest, self serving sumbitches on the planet. The sad thing is, many of them start as bright eyed idealists who want to do honest reporting, but are corrupted by the system. Kind of like Congress critters.
 
HayesGreener said:
Having dealt personally with the media, I regard them as the most vile, dishonest, self serving sumbitches on the planet. The sad thing is, many of them start as bright eyed idealists who want to do honest reporting, but are corrupted by the system. Kind of like Congress critters.
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Good point, but it's much like many professions that infect our society today, very few actually do the right thing before they do the most beneficial thing for them, even ministers are guilty.
 
Ozarker said:
I agree with everyone, I hate traitors, but I have to shake my head at this. Sounds like Confidential TTPs (most of which you'll see in the moves) being made for political hay, now, I'd be concerned if he had been keeping boxes of Top Secret documents in his bathroom at home. As to an excuse for not informing Congress, how did that leap get made, from a past employee to Congress?

BTW, how does this hypocrisy relate to firearms? Doesn't Reddit have forums for the 39%?
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Actually, starting about the mid-80s there were many FMs which were placed on FOUO designation. Unless one gets a bootleg copy, going through wickets is needed to get copies of them now. Some are publicly available, but you now have to buy them. Others on DTIC or Confidential TTPs need authorization and proper handling. Bottom line one is not going to find selected documents at the Army surplus store anymore, especially TTPs for Delta force.
 
Cedric said:
Actually, starting about the mid-80s there were many FMs which were placed on FOUO designation. Unless one gets a bootleg copy, going through wickets is needed to get copies of them now. Some are publicly available, but you now have to buy them. Others on DTIC or Confidential TTPs need authorization and proper handling. Bottom line one is not going to find selected documents at the Army surplus store anymore, especially TTPs for Delta force.
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Yes, I'm aware, you can buy FM 3-15.130 in a Kindle for $1.99, along with volumes of FM's. At one time many of the Intelligence Publications were classified, even publications from our spy days from the Cold War were classified, the Company Commander's Handbook, Counterintelligence Operations Techniques, Signals Intelligence, Human Intelligence, most all had basic FMs and sub-pubs which were classified. As you mentioned, classifications could be from OFUO to Confidential to Secret, Top Secret and further designations were not published as Field or Training Manuals. Such manuals were available at any Division level AG publications center,

At one time, part of my job was classifying documents, photographs and materials up to, including Secret. Classifications were assigned a declassification schedule as well, such as time sensitive periods when something became public knowledge or 20 years, 50 years, etc. So, we could have information from 50 years ago that was Secret to be unclassified today, like back in 1976. Thing is, operational TTPs today have been based upon operational developments of the past, actually from WWII, Korea and Viet Nam, today's operations didn't pop out of a computer last year.

I have no idea what information was compromised by the ex-employee, but I do know that taking her to court won't be a walk in the park, that a damage assessment will be warranted and verbal communications are hard to prove, I'm not defending this suspect but saying it's not going to be easy to prove treasonous acts.

Always Out Front, Lead The Way, Climb To Glory!
 
Ozarker said:
Yes, I'm aware, you can buy FM 3-15.130 in a Kindle for $1.99, along with volumes of FM's. At one time many of the Intelligence Publications were classified, even publications from our spy days from the Cold War were classified, the Company Commander's Handbook, Counterintelligence Operations Techniques, Signals Intelligence, Human Intelligence, most all had basic FMs and sub-pubs which were classified. As you mentioned, classifications could be from OFUO to Confidential to Secret, Top Secret and further designations were not published as Field or Training Manuals. Such manuals were available at any Division level AG publications center,

At one time, part of my job was classifying documents, photographs and materials up to, including Secret. Classifications were assigned a declassification schedule as well, such as time sensitive periods when something became public knowledge or 20 years, 50 years, etc. So, we could have information from 50 years ago that was Secret to be unclassified today, like back in 1976. Thing is, operational TTPs today have been based upon operational developments of the past, actually from WWII, Korea and Viet Nam, today's operations didn't pop out of a computer last year.

I have no idea what information was compromised by the ex-employee, but I do know that taking her to court won't be a walk in the park, that a damage assessment will be warranted and verbal communications are hard to prove, I'm not defending this suspect but saying it's not going to be easy to prove treasonous acts.

Always Out Front, Lead The Way, Climb To Glory!
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I agree they didn't pop out recently, but she may have revealed AARs and lessons learned which would be incorporated in future manuals, but we'll find out more hopefully. You reminded me of a part in Blackhawk Down where the Delta guys went in riding on seats extending out from the sides of MH-6s. A coworker who had worked with Delta earlier was appalled that the movie showed those choppers and the seats. I thought nothing of it, but at the time, it apparently was a close hold TTP. Who knew?
 
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