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My .308 Saint Victor V1, firing pin issues?

RaizeR

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So i have been taking my .308 out to shoot finally, and after sending a lot of rounds through I decided to clean it and remembered what was happening.

I am using a 7.62 Ventum for a suppressor and i did adjust the gas block.

Anyways, I took apart the BCG and remembered that it did blow some primers and had a few jams because of it. So i took a close look at firing pin and it seems to have a small gash on top of it.

I was using cheaper ammo some Igman 7.62x51 and other stuff. Oh and PMC bronze .308 all in 147g manufactured ammo

I also shot PMC X-tac and Federal Premium Gold Medal both 168g they shot cleaner and tighter as expected and i didn’t seem to have any issues that i can recall with that stuff

I will attach pictures to this so somebody with better knowledge can chime in, if they so kindly will do.

I can see like a small gash on the top of the firing pin and it looks maybe mushroomed a or warped a small bit?

Sorry the point of this post is that am i ok to continue using this pin or should look for a new one? I will inspect the bolt face and firing pin hole as well.
 

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RaizeR said:
So i have been taking my .308 out to shoot finally, and after sending a lot of rounds through I decided to clean it and remembered what was happening.

I am using a 7.62 Ventum for a suppressor and i did adjust the gas block.

Anyways, I took apart the BCG and remembered that it did blow some primers and had a few jams because of it. So i took a close look at firing pin and it seems to have a small gash on top of it.

I was using cheaper ammo some Igman 7.62x51 and other stuff. Oh and PMC bronze .308 all in 147g manufactured ammo

I also shot PMC X-tac and Federal Premium Gold Medal both 168g they shot cleaner and tighter as expected and i didn’t seem to have any issues that i can recall with that stuff

I will attach pictures to this so somebody with better knowledge can chime in, if they so kindly will do.

I can see like a small gash on the top of the firing pin and it looks maybe mushroomed a or warped a small bit?

Sorry the point of this post is that am i ok to continue using this pin or should look for a new one? I will inspect the bolt face and firing pin hole as well.
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Firing pins are inexpensive
Buy a new one
 
KillerFord1977 said:
Firing pins are inexpensive
Buy a new one
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Quick question, I don’t know much about the parts for the AR10 and or DPMS .308 gas rifles. I believe I read that Springfield doesn’t sell spare parts for these rifles specifically the BCG parts.

So my question Is, what kind of firing pin should I buy? Just look for a DPMS pattern firing pin or are they specific to the rifles?

I guess I will just use a caliper on my firing pin and go from there but I appreciate the reply.
 
RaizeR said:
Quick question, I don’t know much about the parts for the AR10 and or DPMS .308 gas rifles. I believe I read that Springfield doesn’t sell spare parts for these rifles specifically the BCG parts.

So my question Is, what kind of firing pin should I buy? Just look for a DPMS pattern firing pin or are they specific to the rifles?

I guess I will just use a caliper on my firing pin and go from there but I appreciate the reply
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Any standard dpms compatible Ar-10 pin should work. Prob like $15-20
Shipping may be more than the part
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
TEXASforLIFE said:
Since you rin a suppressor, have you had any issues with firing pins or estimated life span of when they were changed?

Back pressure comes to mind on pin destruction.
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Edit: I just got done cleaning the DPMS .308 and the bolt seems fine. And no unusual wear. Never went to the range.


I am running other suppressors on other AR rifles in .556 that do have more back pressure and are pretty new and have maybe a little less rounds put through it than the .308 but no damage or puncturing of primers. I believe that’s what you are asking?

I forgot to say when i was running the ammo i was just loading it up, the .308 and 7.62 so i’m not sure which one could have been piercing the primer. I was use to just loading cheap ammo and having fun, but now i need to pay close attention because i want to get efficient in long range.

So next time i go to the range, after i install a new firing pin of course. i’ll make sure to check the ammo i load and make some notes.
 
RaizeR said:
Edit: I just got done cleaning the DPMS .308 and the bolt seems fine. And no unusual wear. Never went to the range.


I am running other suppressors on other AR rifles in .556 that do have more back pressure and are pretty new and have maybe a little less rounds put through it than the .308 but no damage or puncturing of primers. I believe that’s what you are asking?

I forgot to say when i was running the ammo i was just loading it up, the .308 and 7.62 so i’m not sure which one could have been piercing the primer. I was use to just loading cheap ammo and having fun, but now i need to pay close attention because i want to get efficient in long range.

So next time i go to the range, after i install a new firing pin of course. i’ll make sure to check the ammo i load and make some notes.
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I DON'T OWN THE VICTOR ( 🤬 CATS AGAIN) so i don't know if it's 7.62nato or 308win chambered? if nato and you used 308 then that's part on the problem. from what i can remember both chambers are the same, headspace is the difference and why nato has a lower max psi.

with the pin damaged does it fail to fire?
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
I DON'T OWN THE VICTOR ( 🤬 CATS AGAIN) so i don't know if it's 7.62nato or 308win chambered? if nato and you used 308 then that's part on the problem. from what i can remember both chambers are the same, headspace is the difference and why nato has a lower max psi.

with the pin damaged does it fail to fire?
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Oh ok. it’s .308win chambered. I also bought some head spacing gauges just to make sure for what you mentioned above.

And no it does not fail to fire. Just jams up from the pesky blowouts.
 
RaizeR said:
Oh ok. it’s .308win chambered. I also bought some head spacing gauges just to make sure for what you mentioned above.

And no it does not fail to fire. Just jams up from the pesky blowouts.
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some will tell you to remove the extractor and ejector when checking headspacing.................i don't and haven't had any issues when building bolt guns or ar's. also, don't use tape on the go gauge as it compresses, but so use that method
 
RaizeR said:
Oh ok. it’s .308win chambered. I also bought some head spacing gauges just to make sure for what you mentioned above.

And no it does not fail to fire. Just jams up from the pesky blowouts.
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so, the pin isn't swelled/mushroomed into the bolt and is removable...............that takes the "open bolt" (uzi type) firing out of the equation. so no slam fires from this only jam issues
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
some will tell you to remove the extractor and ejector when checking headspacing.................i don't and haven't had any issues when building bolt guns or ar's. also, don't use tape on the go gauge as it compresses, but so use that method
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I actually bought the gauges because i feel like i’m having accuracy issues as well. So I maybe buying a new barrel for it as well. I was running a cheaper end LPVO I upgraded that and was going to the range to test it. Until i seen that firing pin while cleaning and remembered my primers blowing out.
 
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