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Discussion: Why You Don’t Need Hollow Points

Interesting that two of the choices listed fill the cavity with polymer to make the cut.

The title of the article is misleading. I thought the argument for FMJ was going to be presented.

My experience with Hornady Critical Defense is that some pistols don't like it. It won't feed in my wife's P365/.380. It isn't a problem in our bigger guns. I have also noticed that over time the polymer tip on some rounds rests proud of the bullet crown far enough to be concerning.

Thankfully I live in a state that doesn't regulate ammo types (for now). Like supressors, the logic behind the prohibition of of something that decreases the chance of unintentional consequences escapes me.
 
Out of those choices the Hornady Critical Dity hamds down (I am not restricted and like the round and Texas and Kansas Teoopers as well as FBI and US Marshals sort nap a lot of felons with it)

That said ball isn’t as ineffective as people think. And it doesn’t over penetrate like the fear is. Bystanders are injured by misses not pass throughs

But while I’d never recommend Ball if uiu are mandated like NYPD was the LSWC 38’s as Pat Roger’s stated….”it works fine if you can shoot” I will add if you can’t a JHP or bigger caliber won’t make up for that
 
I'm good with Gold Dot or HST in 9MM. Having to run Critical Duty or Golden Saber probably wouldn't move me off of my 9mm choice of EDC X9's. If JHP's were off the table altogether, I'm fine with .45's with a wide meplat and sharp shoulders. I've already vetted my Springfield Pro and CGP will run with the 200 grain version just fine. Edit: Whoopsie! Writing this made me realize I've never checked those through my final retirement present to myself. New task added!
 
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hollow points are nice, but so are good old BALL round nose 230 grain " i can touch you " rounds
i have some frangible type hollow points in my 380
and some for the 9 i carry everywhere, but in the end if it comes to it, make each round count. they all will be attention getters

at the range i have accidentally hit the post holding the target and the 230 grn round nose destroyed a BIG piece of the 4x4
 
this right here, from the article:


Another advantage of hollow point ammunition is the fact that it is less likely to over penetrate the torso of an adversary and put others at risk. Other bullet styles such as full metal jacket or even old school lead bullets have been known to pass entirely through a human body and injure or kill others.


hollow points, that's all i'll carry, either in 9mm or 45ACP

its NOT required to carry (hollow point), its just a safer...????? round to avoid that over penetration

YMMV


i'll do me..........
 
I've tried it in some guns with mixed results.
The 135 +p seems to work great for me in almost everything.

My go to is Speer LE GDHP in 124g and 147g or PDGD ammo in 115g

Got lucky at LGS and found 7 boxes of Speer LE GDHP 124 +p for $25/50 a box. Guess they picked it up thru a estate sale from a former LEO
 
Old_Me said:
this right here, from the article:


Another advantage of hollow point ammunition is the fact that it is less likely to over penetrate the torso of an adversary and put others at risk. Other bullet styles such as full metal jacket or even old school lead bullets have been known to pass entirely through a human body and injure or kill others.
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Is anyone aware of any *documented* case where an innocent bystander was hit, either by a justified shooter (miss) or an "overpenetration?"

I reallly dislike the term, "overpenetration," as it strikes me as an oxymoron.
 
Anchorite said:
Is anyone aware of any *documented* case where an innocent bystander was hit, either by a justified shooter (miss) or an "overpenetration?"

I reallly dislike the term, "overpenetration," as it strikes me as an oxymoron.
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not that i am aware of..the documentation,

only what many have said regarding the usage of HP's, and not passing thru the body.

i'll stick with the HP's for self defensive, all others for the range.

last thing i'd need is a lawsuit using any other type of round, if injury or death happens due to that "overpenetration".
 
The dreaded Winchester silver tip, Treasury load, was designed to expend all the energy inside the human body. It was a 110 to grain bullet +P+ 38 spl, that was wonderful.

Then the libs began to complain and now it's history. It did too much damage to the internal organs and was cruel and nasty to the criminals.
 
Retired Bum said:
The dreaded Winchester silver tip, Treasury load, was designed to expend all the energy inside the human body. It was a 110 to grain bullet +P+ 38 spl, that was wonderful.

Then the libs began to complain and now it's history. It did too much damage to the internal organs and was cruel and nasty to the criminals.
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Comfy? That's too damned bad. 👍
 
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This is what I use for my house gun since I live in a townhouse complex…9mm 100gr HP
 
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