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Point taken. I was looking for instances where there was an armed encounter and a bystander was hit, not specifically what the talking heads are calling a random event.

I'm of the opinion - and I have been for 40+ years - its the Indian and not the arrow. I think Jim Cirillo was a good example of the primacy of software over hardware. An effective killer will get the job done with whatever weapon is in hand.

Is anyone aware of any *documented* case where an innocent bystander was hit, either by a justified shooter (miss) or an "overpenetration?" I reallly dislike the term, "overpenetration," as it strikes me as an oxymoron.

This is like arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Reliability and shot placement are key. Everything else is secondary.

On the Beretta interest: “Beretta's interest in buying Ruger surfaced in September 2025 when the family owned Luxembourg manufacturer disclosed in a regulatory filing it had acquired a 7.75% stake in Ruger. That stake grew to 9% in October 2025. In February, Beretta became the largest...

I don’t believe so…the paused production models represent a relatively small fraction of Rugers income - some suggest so small that is why production was suspended. The increase is most likely attributed to the public’s overall increase in gun buying over the last year.

Hopefully this link works: https://www.unionleader.com/news/business-news/ruger-profits-nearly-quadruple-as-gun-sales-surge-in-third-quarter-8d48404d Summary: "Ruger’s third-quarter profit rose to $5.8 million as firearm sales climbed 16.4%, while the company narrows its product lineup to...

"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session." ~ Mark Twain

Ah. Gotta toot his own horn.

I'll wait and grab a used copy of his book and check it out for myself.

Interesting montage. I would include the 22 Hornet in that list. A lot of old timers (and poachers) have used it for years to harvest literally truckloads of deer. The 32-20 is an interesting choice, as is the 16 gauge (as opposed to the 12 gauge). I would rank the 25-06 on the list...

I remember reading they are "geologically related" to the hills in Scotland and some of the mountains of Norway/Scandanavia.

From my notes: Any 210-200gr SWC 5.0 to 7.0 Unique 5.7grs BE-86 And I use either Special brass or magnum brass. I’ve found zero difference in using either one.

Great stuff.

Visited in late 1990, was a really cool place. Sad to see it vandalized and burned.

Although a lot of folks use Remington 700 bolt action rifles and think they are great, I’d take a Winchester M70 any day over the Remington 700, and twice over on Saturday and Sundays. Let me explain the advantages a Winchester Model 70 has: * Reciever is about 3 times stiffer. * Longer...

And I thought the idea was to make a profit. No, seriously, I get what you are suggesting. And maybe that's true, but I don't see that many revolvers for sale in any LGS or local gun shows. It's almost as if only old fuds shoot them wheel guns anymore.

When I was younger, in the 80s, we referred to them as "Salvage," for QC reasons. Maybe they will bring back the 99? That might really boost sales and make them competitive. I just hope they don't run them into the ground like they did T/C.

And we see that S&W has acquired Savage. That is a head-scratcher for me. As a long-time T/C user I was ecstatic when S&W acquired them, thinking the line would expand and there would be a lot more options listed in the lineup, only to be disappointed when management let the line die on the...

A 25-06 is just a 270 that took the week off from working out.