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I went to another local store and got one. Thanks for the feedback. I did reach out to the first store. They seemed uninterested in what I told them about other stores getting them and that there isn't a backlog.

Does anyone have an idea how long the wait to get an Echelon is? I ordered a Firstline, Echelon in July from a popular, fairly large gun store back in July. I'm still waiting. They say their supplier does not tell them what they will receive ahead of time. Should I expect to see this gun in...

What are your thoughts on a prosecutor arguing someone is guilty of negligence and manslaughter? Massad Ayoob advocates carrying only stock triggers. I just bought the PRP after reading this article. What do you think of the possible legal ramfications of using this on a self defense gun.

If that's the case, I'll save the money and not get the optic. Thank you.

I know you just use the dot when it's working. If it fails, and everything fails once in a while, then you have the other sites for back-up. Does your red dot offer more than one reticle, such as the circle around the dot?

It seems we have to compromise on choosing an optic for the Hellcat Pro. There is no green dot optic available to fit the slot on the Hellcat Pro, and using an adapter plate to mount something like a Holosun raises the optic to block the original sites. Springfield doesn't make suppressor height...