All of that is web-trackable, and if the person makes a purchase they get a piece. This isn't rocket science. Referral links and aggregators have been a business model for decades.
165 Grain 40 S&W Is It Dead?
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It sure makes people “ooh and ahh”.
Let me say this first before I poke at it: I am a 10mm fan.
It’s not so much because I marvel at the ballistics, but more a case of this:
If I can have a cartridge that shoots a specific bullet 950 FPS, or one that shoots the same bullet anywhere from 950 to 1200 FPS, I’ll take the one with more flexibility.
That’s a gross simplification, but the general idea is there.
The 10mm is not my favorite, but I like it. I’ve owned at least one for maybe 30 years, although I might go two years without picking one up. On the other hand, the last new gun I bought (Sep) was a 10mm, so my interest for it is definitely still there.
With all that out of the way…
I think the 10mm is, at least, misunderstood. I might even say overrated. Sure, it’s got more zip (technical term) than the .40. More than the 9mm. More than a lot of cartridges.
But it is NOT some fire-breathing stopper of dinosaurs.
When I got that new 10mm recently, almost everyone who saw it reacted the same way. Comments like “What? Are you expecting some Grizzly to show up here?”
These are people who know more about guns than a huge percentage of people, and not just some hoo-yah (another technical term).
It’s no slouch, but it’s not that wild and wooly either.
Many times I’ve seen the 10mm compared to the .41 Magnum. Even as a fan, that makes me grit my teeth. Other than being somewhat close in bullet diameter, I don’t see the comparison. The stoutest 10mm loads and the mildest .41 Mag loads overlap, and that’s it. I can probably find several pairs of cartridges to do that with. This does not make it a valid comparison at all.
I haven’t taken a shot at answering the question of what the 10 does the 40 doesn’t.
It’s fun to reload if you like experimenting. As I said, it can be loaded below the .40 to well above the .40. However, I don’t think that is the biggest appeal.
It has been chambered in some interesting guns over the years. That helps, but again I don’t think explains it all.
You can hunt some animals with it. Yeah, but I can say that about a lot of calibers.
Mostly I think what it has is the appeal of being different.
If you get bored with the standards, here you go. You can play with an oddball without it being TOO odd. It IS a good cartridge and reloads easily. You can play around with loading it without requiring custom dies and watching auction sites hoping to find a handful of brass. It is still a curiosity, since when people see someone with a 10mm, most will take a look.
This is where it does compare to the .41 Magnum in my opinion. Both satisfy the urge for something different without getting carried away about it.
WellArmed
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Huh? We aren't talking in general. We're talking about AmmoSeek, and they do not get anything a piece of anything when someone purchases ammo. They only get paid and profit basically based venders paying a subscription fee. The amount of the fee vendors have to pay is contingent on the volume of clicks the get. AmmoSeek does NOT know who purchases what, and they do not get a commission.
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Are you a vendor? Otherwise how, exactly, do you know this vs. just believe it to be true?
WellArmed
Custom
Are you? I "know" what AmmoSeek's policies are and how they operate because they, on more than one page on their website, explicitly state how they operate. They state the TOS for vendors to be able to have their products posted on their (AmmoSeek's), search engine. What they themselves state is at odds with your conjecture and assumptions.
I have experience in building the API integrations for these eCommerce sites, and very often their Terms give very high level descriptions of what they can do, but the actual integrations behind the scenes include much, much more data that's covered in the broad Terms terms.
WellArmed
Custom
What does your experience have to do with the price of tea in China or how AmmoSeek does business? They explicitly state how they operate, but you seem to "know" otherwise. AmmoSeek makes their money from charging vendors to advertise their ammo on their website. AmmoSeek does not get a commission from sales, as you continuously assert. What you have done in the past and how other companies' business model has nothing to do with AmmoSeek
From their own terms:
So, in fact, retailers using their site can offer (and Ammoseek accepts) commissions based on existing 3rd party affiliate program links in lieu of their monthly fee, so long as the commission is higher than the monthly fee.
Option 4 also gives them that ability because it's exactly as broad as I initially described, and they can set it up directly.
WellArmed
Custom
And in option #1, the 3rd party collects the information, e.i., clicks and purchases, and pays AmmoSeek. The app collects the information not AmmoSeek.
The next point is that it would be foolish for a company to sign up for commission based pay, where they STILL have to reach the $179 or $99 threshold AND would be paying commission fees on top of that. That would indicate that they're paying MORE than those who who opt just to pay the $179 or $99 or flat monthly fee.
Last, my point still remains valid that AmmoSeek has no reliable to know anything other than clicks. Even if, and they don't, knew what customers were buying based on 3rd party commission sales, their data with regards to the most popular ammo would be unreliable as it's excluding a large portion of data. In that scenario, if only 5% of the vendors opted to pay more via Option #1, then the would be overly represented in any stats. No matter how you try to spin it, the only thing they can reliability know from their end is what links are being clicked.
Outside of that, AmmoSeek themselves state that they have "no knowledge about which retailers" their visitors "may have ordered from. It's not something we [AmmoSeek] track."
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Bear103
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Respectfully, just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not good. With that outta the way, I have never been a fan of the .40 if I want something based on a 10mm….I would just buy a 10. Hated the Glocks chambered in 40. At that time we could carry whatever caliber we wanted as long as it was a Glock. I carried a .45 as the range master at the time whom I somehow must have really made made wouldn’t sign off on any other calibers except 9, 40 and 45.