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Another trip to the range with the HellCat Pro

Musashi said:
After market triggers can certainly improve things though I hesitate to put them on my carry guns for lawyer reasons.
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My question would be why?
They are legal. They improve function of a firearm. There are many reasons legally to use them. From arthritis in the hand, to accuracy when pulling the trigger, etc, etc.
I’m not aware of any court case where a trigger was used against the defendent as a topic in court
 
KillerFord1977 said:
My question would be why?
They are legal. They improve function of a firearm. There are many reasons legally to use them. From arthritis in the hand, to accuracy when pulling the trigger, etc, etc.
I’m not aware of any court case where a trigger was used against the defendent as a topic in court
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Couldn't agree more all of my pistols either have aftermarket trigger kits or have had pistol smiths do action work on them.
 
There is things you can do to striker fired guns to make the triggers better but IMO they will never be as good as the guys that make dedicated triggers for a certain firearm. The S&W M&P is very easy trigger to work on with decent outcomes. But it doesn’t come close to the Apex trigger. I’ve worked on my M&P and have the trigger at 4 lbs but it’s still like squeezing a rubber ball.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
My question would be why?
They are legal. They improve function of a firearm. There are many reasons legally to use them. From arthritis in the hand, to accuracy when pulling the trigger, etc, etc.
I’m not aware of any court case where a trigger was used against the defendent as a topic in court
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My only hesitation with modifications on a carry pistol trigger are safety related. I don't want to defeat the safety systems or make the trigger too light that it somehow goes bang unintentionally. I know most kits don't do that but it's definitely the reason I have not touched my carry pistol triggers.
 
MiataMinded said:
Hogues are a pain in the *** to install but absolutely worth the trouble. I've got one on my Shield X and it went from 9/10 to 10/10 grip. It's also more comfortable to carry with the Hogue. Less irritating than textured plastic.

I've got one on order for my BG2.0 as well.
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Hogue on a BHP. Put grips on in ‘91 when I bought the gun new.
Still has great ergo’s and feel.
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Condition1 said:
I’ll post 2 targets first one is from the first range trip with 30rds iand second is from the last one. Second target is 15rds. Both at 10yds.
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Sidestep into philosophical discussion .

How do * You * percieve the nature , purpose , and expectations of this pistol ? Serious question .

In my outlook of things , l have broad categories . All around , general purpose , do pretty much everything that would be expected of typical full size pistol . And also a deliberate trade off of signifigantly smaller , but still reasonably suitable for Defense at a distance suitable for * most * defensive necessity .

I won't mention here my specific group and distance yardsticks , but will the ratio .

My expectations for second category , are ( same groupings ) at 3/5 the distance as for the " real guns " .

The posted targets , show well within my expectations for the second category , to Me .
 
Biggfoot44 said:
Sidestep into philosophical discussion .

How do * You * percieve the nature , purpose , and expectations of this pistol ? Serious question .

In my outlook of things , l have broad categories . All around , general purpose , do pretty much everything that would be expected of typical full size pistol . And also a deliberate trade off of signifigantly smaller , but still reasonably suitable for Defense at a distance suitable for * most * defensive necessity .

I won't mention here my specific group and distance yardsticks , but will the ratio .

My expectations for second category , are ( same groupings ) at 3/5 the distance as for the " real guns " .

The posted targets , show well within my expectations for the second category , to Me .
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Good point. I purchased my HC Pro for the singular purpose of carry. Fortunately I haven't been disappointed.
 
Biggfoot44 said:
Sidestep into philosophical discussion .

How do * You * percieve the nature , purpose , and expectations of this pistol ? Serious question .

In my outlook of things , l have broad categories . All around , general purpose , do pretty much everything that would be expected of typical full size pistol . And also a deliberate trade off of signifigantly smaller , but still reasonably suitable for Defense at a distance suitable for * most * defensive necessity .

I won't mention here my specific group and distance yardsticks , but will the ratio .

My expectations for second category , are ( same groupings ) at 3/5 the distance as for the " real guns " .

The posted targets , show well within my expectations for the second category , to Me .
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EDC is what I bought it for and EDC only. I carry at work and cannot print or I will get fired. Then I might have to find a part time job where I would have to work and I can’t do that I’m to old. I can hit a coke can at a 100 yards with this pistol so a human size target at a little further should be an easy shot. For some people life isn’t as easy as lumping guns into categories. Plus I have 15rds in the gun and a full grip.
 
MiataMinded said:
My only hesitation with modifications on a carry pistol trigger are safety related. I don't want to defeat the safety systems or make the trigger too light that it somehow goes bang unintentionally. I know most kits don't do that but it's definitely the reason I have not touched my carry pistol triggers.
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Apex Tactical has been making triggers for a while and I’ve never heard of anyone having problems with them. I’ve put them on several guns.
 
MiataMinded said:
I have been thoroughly pleased with my Shield X purchase. I briefly considered a Hellcat but the chunky grip didn't really jive with me and M&Ps have always been my first love.

The Shield X grip angle is perfect and a Hogue grip makes it comfortable and non-slip. 10/10.
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I like S&W I own several but the size of the HellCat won out over the Shield and Sig. I have a Ruger Max9 and it’s accurate and your cut but the HellCat is the same size with a 15rd capacity.
 
Condition1 said:
I like S&W I own several but the size of the HellCat won out over the Shield and Sig. I have a Ruger Max9 and it’s accurate and your cut but the HellCat is the same size with a 15rd capacity.
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I totally understand that. I keep hoping they release 17rd extended mags for the X. That's definitely a benefit in favor of the hellcat.

And I wish the CSX-E had a light rail cause I'd have one of them if it did.
 
MiataMinded said:
I totally understand that. I keep hoping they release 17rd extended mags for the X. That's definitely a benefit in favor of the hellcat.

And I wish the CSX-E had a light rail cause I'd have one of them if it did.
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I considered the CSX also I prefer hammer fired pistols but the size of the HellCat again won. My arthritis is getting worse especially in my hands. And having a full grip on a handgun and optic ready makes a huge difference in my decisions on buying handguns now.
 
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