Any Thoughts On This CZ-75?
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Talyn
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The classic CZ-75. reliable & accurate as a service pistol.
CZ 75 - Wikipedia
A nice looking "pre-B". Made from 1980-1993 and replaced by the "B" model, that's still in production and it's variations.
"Pre-Bs" have different mag well dimensions compared to the current "B" model and it's variations, so "B" mags won't fit in a "pre-B" properly. And...
The CZ 75 PRE-B MAGAZINES HAVE A SQUARE CUT NOTCH IN THE REAR OF THE MAGAZINE TUBE BEHIND THE FOLLOWER. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES HAVE A MORE U-SHAPED CUTOUT. CZ 75 PRE-B MAGAZINES WILL FIT AND FUNCTION FINE IN THE CZ 75 B. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES ARE A LITTLE WIDER AND WON'T FIT PROPERLY IN THE CZ 75 PRE-B. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES ARE A LITTLE WIDER AND THEY WILL BE TOO LARGE TO INSERT INTO THE MAGAZINE WELL (TOO TIGHT OF A FIT).
Besides the originals CZ made "pre-B" mags for awhile then discontinued them.
But, Greg Cote has these that fit a "pre-B".
CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM FACTORY 10 RD MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11102 [11102] - $36.95 : Greg Cote LLC
Greg Cote LLC CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM FACTORY 10 RD MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11102 [11102] - (LIMITED TIME SPECIAL) CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 10 ROUND FACTORY MAGAZINE 11102. CZ has discontinued the pre b CZ 75 magazine. This magazine fits and...
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CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 85 & CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11152 [11152] - $44.95 : Greg Cote LLC
Greg Cote LLC CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 85 & CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11152 [11152] - CZ 75 SP-01, CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 75B SA, or CZ 85 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE 11152. CZ has discontinued the pre b CZ 75 magazine. This magazine normally fits and functions...
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I like my pre-B but don't shoot it due to it's collectability. CZ has made "B" models (the past limited-production "Retro" and the current Anniversary "Legend") that resemble the pre-B 's on the outside but are "Bs" inside.
CZ 75B Retro: A Nod to a Groundbreaking Wonder Nine - Inside Safariland
CZ makes different models of the CZ 75 for carry and competition, but the CZ 75B Retro might be the best of the lineup.
inside.safariland.com
Few handguns have shaped the modern 9mm pistol landscape like the CZ 75. First introduced in the mid-1970s, the Czech-built pistol became a benchmark for ergonomics, capacity, and shootability. So influential that it’s been copied countless times across the globe. Now, CZ is revisiting that legacy with the CZ 75 Legend, a pistol built to celebrate the original design in its purest form.
athlonoutdoors.com
The all-steel, hammer-fired pistol retains the platform’s classic double-action/single-action (DA/SA) trigger, manual thumb...
CZ 75 Legend: One of the Most Influential 9mm Pistols Ever Made
Athlon Outdoors Exclusive Firearm Updates, Reviews & News
athlonoutdoors.com
The all-steel, hammer-fired pistol retains the platform’s classic double-action/single-action (DA/SA) trigger, manual thumb...
If you want to collect the pre-B that's fine, but if you want to shoot it a lot you'll need the above mags & it would reduce its collectability.
If you wan
Old_Me
Emissary
i actually have 2 models..
the 75 B....and the 75 B Omega.
the Omega has a decocker, which can be removed easily and the regular safety installed, which is what i did.
i love mine, but i do have at least 1 regret..
i had the chance to buy (now discontinued) the nickle plated 75 B, as i was buying the black one.
it was about $200 more, but i too was new to the gun world, and back then, i just wanted a gun, nothing fancy.
oh well...
world of caution on this CZ model, and many others like it...that are CZ all metal hand guns
DO NOT DRY FIRE WITHOUT SNAP CAPS.........!!!!
look at the grip serrations at the rear of the slide
there is a small roll pin in there.
that roll pin STOPS the firing pin from over travel.
it gets CRUSHED over time, especially if one DRY FIRES with out snap caps..!!!!!
all you have to do is, hold up the gun to a bright light.......
look into that roll pin
see the light..???
roll pin still good.
do not see the light...??
roll pins need replacement
mine are still in great condition.
BUT i still bought "harder ones", from Cajon Gun Works, on stand by. (actually quite simple to replace as well, using "roll pin punches")
i have been told the recoil spring "should be" replaced at about 5,000 round.
other than that, super great guns, i wish i could buy "a few more"........
Winchester67
Professional
Interesting. Great tip Old Me!!! I had not heard that. My take on the CZ 75 is that it is the evolution of the Browning Hi Power. Took the grip and double stack mag, added double action and flipped the slide rails. Slick design. But the trigger is a little far forward. Just different. Feels strange in the Gun Shop, but you get used to it at the range in no time. It is a great platform. I keep trying to get my brother, the black sheep of the family, to get a sidearm. This is the platform I worked with him on. Manual safety and all I feel better with a lever for him.
Retired Bum
Custom
Just my opinion, based upon my experiences, from 60 years of shooting.
The CZ is one of the best and finest fighting handguns ever...
You have chosen well in my opinion, others will disagree.
The CZ is one of the best and finest fighting handguns ever...
You have chosen well in my opinion, others will disagree.
Winchester67
Professional
And don't forget the strength of the design. Back in the Early Days when guys were trying to make the 9mm make Major in competition, the CZ design was the only design that was strong enough for the task...
KillerFord1977
Emissary
Buy it !!!
)PieterCoetzee
Professional
Its HEAVY by todays standards and the "internal" slide has less to grip if you ever need to run one under stress. That being said I paid two months salary for one back in the Reagan days because we couldnt import from the evil empire. It had to go first to Canada and only then to the US. That was two months of mess hall food but I liked it because Jeff Cooper said it was the only 9mm he liked.
And the Col was NOT a 9mm fan
. Unless I’m badly mistaken the Bren 10 was an upsized copy of the ‘75
Old_Me
Emissary
my 75 B Omega
my 75 B
and my CZ 97B....45 ACP, discontinued
as i have explained a few times in the past, i have had 4 major back operations, so i cannot stand steady for more than a few seconds at a time, and i never use a bench rest, all standing up.......which is why i have some "wild shots"....i figure in a self defensive shooting, i ain't gonna be sitting down.
my 75 B
and my CZ 97B....45 ACP, discontinued
as i have explained a few times in the past, i have had 4 major back operations, so i cannot stand steady for more than a few seconds at a time, and i never use a bench rest, all standing up.......which is why i have some "wild shots"....i figure in a self defensive shooting, i ain't gonna be sitting down.
Old_Me
Emissary
thanks...as i said my CZ 75 B has many rounds thru it, and still that roll pin is wide open meaning i can "see the light", so no replacement is due......
but i got a "few" for the nominal cost, as shipping costs WAY MORE, then just 1 or 2 roll pins.
Annihilator
Hellion
The XDm also has a roll pin that stops the firing pin, it to can wear if you dry fire them a lot without snap caps, and on the Beretta 92, you shouldn’t dry fire it extensively or it to will mess up the firing pin since on them, there actually a 2 piece system, my suggestion is if you dry fire any gun, use snap caps, relatively a cheap insurance
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Old_Me
Emissary
the first CZ 75 B, i bought in 2020, and you can see that roll pin much easier inside the slides serrations
and the 75B Omega, with what might be the decocker lever, before i switched it out to the regular safety lever.
essentially, the exact same gun, and this one too, has been discontinued, i got the last one they had in stock, roll pin in the same location.
and the 75B Omega, with what might be the decocker lever, before i switched it out to the regular safety lever.
essentially, the exact same gun, and this one too, has been discontinued, i got the last one they had in stock, roll pin in the same location.
Old_Me
Emissary
yes, i think you, me and a couple of others have ALWAYS said..."use snap caps"
cheaper then buying firing pins.
Annihilator
Hellion
Actually on the XDm, Powder River Precision makes a more durable roll pin that won’t shear or bend for this issue
This is the pin I’m referring to on the XDm
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Dobbinsky
Custom
Great info! Thanks. I did find a few actual pre-B CZ mags for sale, and are very expensive.The classic CZ-75. reliable & accurate as a service pistol.
CZ 75 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
A nice looking "pre-B". Made from 1980-1993 and replaced by the "B" model, that's still in production and it's variations.
"Pre-Bs" have different mag well dimensions compared to the current "B" model and it's variations, so "B" mags won't fit in a "pre-B" properly. And...
The CZ 75 PRE-B MAGAZINES HAVE A SQUARE CUT NOTCH IN THE REAR OF THE MAGAZINE TUBE BEHIND THE FOLLOWER. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES HAVE A MORE U-SHAPED CUTOUT. CZ 75 PRE-B MAGAZINES WILL FIT AND FUNCTION FINE IN THE CZ 75 B. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES ARE A LITTLE WIDER AND WON'T FIT PROPERLY IN THE CZ 75 PRE-B. THE CZ 75B MAGAZINES ARE A LITTLE WIDER AND THEY WILL BE TOO LARGE TO INSERT INTO THE MAGAZINE WELL (TOO TIGHT OF A FIT).
Besides the originals CZ made "pre-B" mags for awhile then discontinued them.
But, Greg Cote has these that fit a "pre-B".
CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM FACTORY 10 RD MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11102 [11102] - $36.95 : Greg Cote LLC
Greg Cote LLC CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM FACTORY 10 RD MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11102 [11102] - (LIMITED TIME SPECIAL) CZ 75 B, CZ 75 BD, CZ 85 B, CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 10 ROUND FACTORY MAGAZINE 11102. CZ has discontinued the pre b CZ 75 magazine. This magazine fits and...gregcotellc.com
CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 85 & CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11152 [11152] - $44.95 : Greg Cote LLC
Greg Cote LLC CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 85 & CZ 75 SP-01 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE (ALSO FITS THE PRE B CZ 75) CZ 11152 [11152] - CZ 75 SP-01, CZ 75B, CZ 75BD, CZ 75B SA, or CZ 85 9MM 18 RD FACTORY MAGAZINE 11152. CZ has discontinued the pre b CZ 75 magazine. This magazine normally fits and functions...gregcotellc.com
I like my pre-B but don't shoot it due to it's collectability. CZ has made "B" models (the past limited-production "Retro" and the current Anniversary "Legend") that resemble the pre-B 's on the outside but are "Bs" inside.
CZ 75B Retro: A Nod to a Groundbreaking Wonder Nine - Inside Safariland
CZ makes different models of the CZ 75 for carry and competition, but the CZ 75B Retro might be the best of the lineup.
Few handguns have shaped the modern 9mm pistol landscape like the CZ 75. First introduced in the mid-1970s, the Czech-built pistol became a benchmark for ergonomics, capacity, and shootability. So influential that it’s been copied countless times across the globe. Now, CZ is revisiting that legacy with the CZ 75 Legend, a pistol built to celebrate the original design in its purest form.
CZ 75 Legend: One of the Most Influential 9mm Pistols Ever Made
Athlon Outdoors Exclusive Firearm Updates, Reviews & News
The all-steel, hammer-fired pistol retains the platform’s classic double-action/single-action (DA/SA) trigger, manual thumb...
If you want to collect the pre-B that's fine, but if you want to shoot it a lot you'll need the above mags & it would reduce its collectability.
If you wan
Dobbinsky
Custom
Excellent tips!
Old_Me
Emissary
as does Cajun Gun Works for the CZ's......i have bought many "spare parts' from them......
Old_Me
Emissary
GregCote.com...super fast shipping, usually all instock, under the MecGar brand.....CZ mags, from CZ...ARE expensive.
however, you would have to check for "pre B mags form them (greg cote)"
Witness, Tanfoglio, IWI, i believe fit, but you can always call customer service, and just talk to them