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Are You Part of the EDC 1%?

KillerFord1977 said:
i get you are new here. go back and read about 2000 pages over the last couple years to see where I train with high level professionals locally and guide for hogs. I've been thru force on force long ago. I'm used to having 4 legged animals that want to harm me keep me on my toes. I have no desire to get into a gun fight. period.
those that are in the line of work to be shot at, good for you. appreciate what you do. not my desire.
I seek out instruction to be better at what I love. Firearms. I was a local PD officer ever so briefly before I kept my current career for 35 yrs. I just dont static shoot.

Is the goal when you shoot to be a bad shot and have a target that looks like a shotgun went off? cause if that's the case like everyone else I see at the range, I guess i'm doing it wrong.
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FIRST: I meant no disrespect nor did I mean to suggest that you dont have training. When I suggested Force on Force training, my meaning was that paper targets and competitions dont produce the same stress as incoming rounds. Ive been charged by Wart Hog, Wild Boar and had a Lion get close, though admittedly not a full charge; but more exciting than at the range for me at least.

Ive seen match quality shooters forget all the skills they won matches with after getting smacked with few Sim rounds. It all changes when rounds are incoming. None of what Im suggesting is a distraction from your skills

On a side note, where do you guide for Hogs. Im always looking for another good Hog hunt
 
PieterCoetzee said:
FIRST: I meant no disrespect nor did I mean to suggest that you dont have training. When I suggested Force on Force training, my meaning was that paper targets and competitions dont produce the same stress as incoming rounds. Ive been charged by Wart Hog, Wild Boar and had a Lion get close, though admittedly not a full charge; but more exciting than at the range for me at least.

Ive seen match quality shooters forget all the skills they won matches with after getting smacked with few Sim rounds. It all changes when rounds are incoming. None of what Im suggesting is a distraction from your skills

On a side note, where do you guide for Hogs. Im always looking for another good Hog hunt
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N Texas
 
No, I am not part of the 1%. Just an average Joe enjoying life as a spouse and a son, father, grandfather, uncle, brother.
I am also an avid shooter, enthusiast, I have never served as a soldier or L E O, (thank you to those of you who have and are currently serving). I carry daily for the last 7 or 8 years. I shoot 10 or so of my defensive rounds through my edc of choice about every 2 or 3 weeks.
I also shoot a bunch of rounds through my 2011 fun guns per month and dont suck at that. Over 12k rounds through XC in last 14 months and another 6k thruogh the xl and prodigy combined. I enjoy shooting paper as well as steel, granted they do not shoot back. Haven't killed a living target with a firearm in over 20 years.
My point is, I do not live my life as if everyone is out to kill me. I do not worry if my ammo will defeat body armor or if one pocket knife is enough. I will do what I can to defend my family and myself to the best of my ability.
If I fail, I am MORE than sure that my family as well as myself will be greeted with the fullest extent of our Lord Jesus Christ' love at the gates of heaven.

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Here we go again. I live in a state had no requirements for a CWP (had as of now you do not need a CWP to carry concealed). No safe demonstration of gun handling skills, no proficiency requirements. Great on one hand terrifying on the other. I have helped those that wanted help, to make them better, safer and more accurate (accurate the most important rule of gun safety). Drawing and presenting to what you are going to shoot at is just as important as shooting (you know you don't want to be fumble f#+@ing around trying to get the gun out). Situational awareness, where and what is cover, is there something bad you (felony in progress going on) that should be aware of. The list can be endless. The question is do you want to be able to protect yourself and possibly others. If yes then practice to become proficient. Do the best you can do, then push yourself to do better. Next month I am going to requalify with the agency I retired from. The day I cannot pass that course I will quit carrying, as I would consider myself unsafe. Then I will have to learn to change up or become a sheep. (I don't like sheep)
 
I believe the lowness of the number of those who seek firearms training is partly attributable to a dearth/lack of training, beyond the basics, offered in bite-size chunks (which is also typically more affordable).

Look around for firearms training and the vast majority seem to be weekend classes (and of course there are 3, 4, and 5 day classes).

Who takes even a 2-day golf class, or skiing class? 5 days? Forget about it. The numbers would be similarly small. Golf and ski instruction is offered by the HOUR.

I've amassed hundreds of hours in training over the years - Almost ALL in single-day classes. (A few in Fri-Sat, or Friday evening + Sat. classes.) I'd take more, but as I said, there's a shortage of single-day class offerings, and shorter classes that don't include a Sunday (Sundays are unavailable for me). Most people aren't going to do the work of finding those classes, or the smaller bites simply aren't available in their locality. Just some thoughts.
 
I have busted more caps than most in 60+ years and have attended more firearms training courses than I can count. But I have noticed that if I go two weeks without range practice my scores drop off. Not saying you need to practice every two weeks but it illustrates for me how perishable the skills are.
 
Yes, I am one of the 1% - in fact, I train with Karl Rehn. 😎 I would, as a commenter above did, suggest force on force training if you haven't had it.

Jim Shanahan (USPSA “GrandMaster” Limited & Rangemaster Certified Master Instructor) talks about a surplus of skill. It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

However, shooting skill alone is not enough. You need other knowledge, too. Check out Shanahan on Lee Weems' podcast at the link below. There is some really good stuff there.

Jim Shanahan Bio

Shanahan on That Weems Guy Show
 
SL66 said:
No, I am not part of the 1%. Just an average Joe enjoying life as a spouse and a son, father, grandfather, uncle, brother.
I am also an avid shooter, enthusiast, I have never served as a soldier or L E O, (thank you to those of you who have and are currently serving). I carry daily for the last 7 or 8 years. I shoot 10 or so of my defensive rounds through my edc of choice about every 2 or 3 weeks.
I also shoot a bunch of rounds through my 2011 fun guns per month and dont suck at that. Over 12k rounds through XC in last 14 months and another 6k thruogh the xl and prodigy combined. I enjoy shooting paper as well as steel, granted they do not shoot back. Haven't killed a living target with a firearm in over 20 years.
My point is, I do not live my life as if everyone is out to kill me. I do not worry if my ammo will defeat body armor or if one pocket knife is enough. I will do what I can to defend my family and myself to the best of my ability.
If I fail, I am MORE than sure that my family as well as myself will be greeted with the fullest extent of our Lord Jesus Christ' love at the gates of heaven.

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Amen, brother 🙏🏻
 
I admit it. I am a terrible shot. I have lost many a gunfight to Tactical Dude and Vital Dude. /s

I spent many a year carrying a side arm or rifle (sometimes both) in the USAF. A good portion of that time I was in a leadership role. I made a point to regularly review with subordinates what their responses would be to various scenarios. As Night Rider said, many don’t get situational awareness until trained and made aware. The other thing a LOT of gun carrying folks don’t focus on developing is an “immediate” response mindset. When someone decides to test your deadly force response skills, that IS NOT the time to be figuring out you can’t follow through, for whatever reason.

I think I’m a bit shy of sending 35k live rounds down range since I started tracking, via spreadsheet by date, gun, ammo, malfunctions, across 62 different firearms that have crossed my path over the years.

I don’t doubt I’ll respond differently if projectiles are repeatedly coming my way - then again, if I’m involved in a long protracted gunfight as a private citizen, instead of an immediate self defense response (stand your ground/retreat) I’ve likely made a bad decision somewhere along the way.

Train as you can, be prepared as you can, protect you and yours.
 
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