Sorry it won't let me upload this video. But with a barrel under 4 inches . unless I'm using a hot 115gr speer load. I just recommend using +p. Even with lighter underwood extreme defenders i tend to stick with +p.. In my berettas with 4.25 and 5inch barrels I wood have no hesitation using standard pressure hst or gold dots or even 147gr because I know it will get the velocity it needs to do its job. Just my opinion and my experience.