Compensated 10 mm for concealed carry?

[FN Fan]

Yes, I actually carry an FN 510 as my concealed EDC.

I am a tall guy with large hands and concealment isn't a problem with IWB or Leather Detective OWB.

What are your experiences with compensated 10 mm? I usually shoot Magtech 180 grain, rn at the range but carry a lighter, Critical Duty for self-defense.

My thought being that while I usually train with both single and rapid double tap at the range, on 3" targets, both moving and stationary, with 90% or more in the black (3"), would compensation be redundant?
There is less muzzle rise with the critical duty. I worry about over penetration or I'd carry the Magtech jhp's.

This might not be a popular choice for smaller guys. Small guns do not work well in my hands.

 

[TEXASforLIFE]

The only factory firearm with a comp i own is a kimber ds warrior. Other than that I have a plethora of comp'd pistols in many cartridges. The 357sig is my favorite comped to carry when I do as it's close to the same muzzle energy as factory (most factory 10mm rounds) as i reload. Reloads are hotter than 40s&w and just under 10mm power. Recoil is bext to nothing. Im building several 320's in 10mm since they're pretty much like lego's

 

[HayesGreener]

Speed, power, and accuracy win the gunfight. A compensator might help get followon hits quicker. Your 10mm certainly provides the power. If you can provide the speed and accuracy, carry what works for you.

 

[TEXASforLIFE]

Speed, power, and accuracy win the gunfight. A compensator might help get followon hits quicker. Your 10mm certainly provides the power. If you can provide the speed and accuracy, carry what works for you.

G18 style

 

[BassCliff]

Hi @FN Fan,

The only concern I have with carrying a comp'd gun for self-defense would be in a CQB situation. If your attacker is within arm's reach, or has his hands on you while you're fighting him off, and you have to shoot from retention, the muzzle blast (burning powder, bits of bullet plating, etc) escaping from the comp'd barrel could hit you, possibly blind you, if you must shoot right out of the holster without going to full extension.

For an experiment, you might want to hold a piece of paper or cardboard over your pistol and fire a few rounds to see what blows up onto the paper. If there is any appreciable muzzle blast be mindful that it could hit you in the face. I'm sure that would not be comfortable.

Otherwise, if you've trained and you're comfortable carrying that way, then you should be good to go. I like full sized pistols too. I can conceal a full sized grip and a 4"-5" barrel. That's a good thing because I can't hit anything with a 3.5" barrel.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

 

[trader]

have done it.....

 

[Annihilator]

Hi @FN Fan,

The only concern I have with carrying a comp'd gun for self-defense would be in a CQB situation. If your attacker is within arm's reach, or has his hands on you while you're fighting him off, and you have to shoot from retention, the muzzle blast (burning powder, bits of bullet plating, etc) escaping from the comp'd barrel could hit you, possibly blind you, if you must shoot right out of the holster without going to full extension.

For an experiment, you might want to hold a piece of paper or cardboard over your pistol and fire a few rounds to see what blows up onto the paper. If there is any appreciable muzzle blast be mindful that it could hit you in the face. I'm sure that would not be comfortable.

Otherwise, if you've trained and you're comfortable carrying that way, then you should be good to go. I like full sized pistols too. I can conceal a full sized grip and a 4"-5" barrel. That's a good thing because I can't hit anything with a 3.5" barrel.

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff

I won’t do it, no sir I won’t post that’s what she said meme…..no I won’t….

 

[Captain O]

No compensators. (At least not for me.)

 

[Anchorite]

I worry about over penetration or I'd carry the Magtech jhp's.

Over penetration of what, exactly?

I think that “myth” is largely overblown and is what has led to these fluted fly-weight projectiles like the Lehigh stuff.
But hey, to each their own.

Given today’s environment and the likelihood of a vehicle situation I’d opt for a load that could defeat sheet metal and windshields.

I’ve never read (even on the interweb!) where an innocent civilian non-combatant was injured by an, “over penetration.”

Just yesterday the NYPD had to take down someone in Times Square at rush hour ….. lots of people around …. any stories of over penetration?

 

[Jsimon78]

I’ll stick with Hornady critical duty. I do carry it in 9-.40-10.

FMJ for self defense is to ghetto for me. I have seen the FB post from the bigger cities in the states and the ammo is like skittles range ammo.

 

[Jsimon78]

Speed, power, and accuracy win the gunfight. A compensator might help get followon hits quicker. Your 10mm certainly provides the power. If you can provide the speed and accuracy, carry what works for you.

No to the compensator. A 10mm compact is heavy enough to carry around with 15 rounds. It’s not like carrying around a Hellcat PRO.

 

[FN Fan]

Over penetration of what, exactly?

I think that “myth” is largely overblown and is what has led to these fluted fly-weight projectiles like the Lehigh stuff.
But hey, to each their own.

Given today’s environment and the likelihood of a vehicle situation I’d opt for a load that could defeat sheet metal and windshields.

I’ve never read (even on the interweb!) where an innocent civilian non-combatant was injured by an, “over penetration.”

Just yesterday the NYPD had to take down someone in Times Square at rush hour ….. lots of people around …. any stories of over penetration?

NYPD doesn't carry 10mm. You must not be familiar with critical duty ammo. It has a plastic plug in the hollow point so it will penetrate a windshield, drywall or a leather jacket before it expands in soft tissue. Many agencies prefer it in 9 mm. Shooting extreme penetrator will disintegrate the side of a concrete block or pass through several layers of 2 by material. 10mm jhp shot at an old farmhouse went through the front, a plaster interior wall and out the back.
But the post was about the effectiveness of a compensator on my edc. I only run about 5000 rounds a year through it. I am both fast and accurate on both stationary and moving targets.
9 mm barely has enough pressure to even make a difference to justify a compensator. The FN 510 shoots very flat without overstated muzzle rise anyway.

 

[FN Fan]

No to the compensator. A 10mm compact is heavy enough to carry around with 15 rounds. It’s not like carrying around a Hellcat PRO.

The FN510 is not compact. It's 32-33oz unloaded. I usually carry the 15 round mag but sometimes carry the 22 round mag. I'm 6'4" and very strong. Out of the 3 holsters, I prefer regularly, I can forget I'm wearing 2 of them. Weight isn't a factor, for me. A hellcat gets lost in my double or triple X hand. I can't shoot accurately, at all with compact weapons, compared to full size.
I used to carry big revolvers. Then I stopped for years. When conceal carry laws changed, I went to the FN 510 with a threaded, tactical barrel. FN does make a factory compensated barrel, they sell out quickly. Parker Mountain makes an aluminum one that boasts dramatic reduction. FN is stainless with 35% reduction in rise.

 

[Captain O]

The upward muzzle flash as well as an enhanced muzzle blast are a definite drawback at night (when many self-defense shootings occur). This is why I am not fond of a compensated handgun. There are too many problems that accompany them.

I carried a Glock Model 20 as an Armed Security Officer. I never wanted/needed a compensated barrel on my duty pistol.

 

[Anchorite]

NYPD doesn't carry 10mm.

I'm well aware.

You must not be familiar with critical duty ammo. It has a plastic plug in the hollow point so it will penetrate a windshield, drywall or a leather jacket before it expands in soft tissue. Many agencies prefer it in 9 mm. Shooting extreme penetrator will disintegrate the side of a concrete block or pass through several layers of 2 by material. 10mm jhp shot at an old farmhouse went through the front, a plaster interior wall and out the back.

Yep. I am also aware and acquainted with the Hornady line and critical duty.

But the post was about the effectiveness of a compensator on my edc. I only run about 5000 rounds a year through it. I am both fast and accurate on both stationary and moving targets.
9 mm barely has enough pressure to even make a difference to justify a compensator. The FN 510 shoots very flat without overstated muzzle rise anyway.

My reply was a question in response to your statement, " I worry about over penetration. "

I must have missed your answer to what over penetration you were worried about.