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Do hammers really beat strikers?

RedGoat said:
1911s are ALL hammer fired, not striker fired, and is SA only. Others, such as the metal framed SIGs and the now-discontinued Smith&Wessons, were generally DA/SA, hammer fired and utilized a firing pin very similar to that of the 1911s. The SIGs were also available with either DA only and (I think, I've never actually handled one) SA only.


DA/SA pistols (or revolvers) are hammer fired. With current technology, striker fired pistols (not revolvers) can be classified as either DA or SA. For example, Glocks are classified as DA. Other striker fired pistols are classified as SA. The distinction hinges upon whether there is additional rearward compression of the striker spring actuated by the trigger pull. Additional striker spring compression = DA classification, minimal additional striker spring compression = SA classification. From a pure technical viewpoint, all SAFE and MECHANICALLY SOUND fire control mechanisms will involve a minuscule compression of a spring due to the requisite slight rearward camming action of a properly set up sear engagement needed to disengage the sear and allow the hammer or striker to release.


Somewhere in there some solid hits have to be made. One cannot miss fast enough to win an armed confrontation.


My own opinion: I'm not certain that combo DA/SA is superior over either a DA only or a SA only. That was the dogma put forth back when DA/SA pistols were entering the marketplace. Firearm safety rules apply even when defending one's own person or home, OR when taking people into custody as a LEO. One should NEVER allow yourself to "outrun your brain" when handling a firearm. To do so is a recipe for tragedy.
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I prefer a hammer fired weapon, overall. However I will carry a striker fired weapon from time-to-time. But, if given one choice it would be a 1911 in .45acp, but that's my preference. Thankfully, I don't have only one choice.
 
I carry a 1911 every day and have for many years. One reason I sometimes travel to my kids and some states only allow you to 10 round mags but at home I have a old XD45 service and along with a XD 40 because it seems the invasions of your home takes more than one person so I have a welcome committee to greet them.
 
RedGoat said:
I apologize if my post came across to you as "you're wrong... " I attempted to elaborate and clarify for the benefit of anyone not familiar with the various handgun platforms and how they actually function. I believe that I'm on the same page as you regarding what you've posted.
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No worries, I was just trying to articulate it better with my response
 
Tough question for me.....and timely -
I don't really do DA/SA Hammer fired autos. In the hammer fired, I love my SAO - P226 X Carry, P229, Platypus, and Staccato P. On the striker side - I also love the Walther PDP Pros with the Performance Dynamic Triggers - they almost approach 1911 territory for me.

So.....yesterday I had my LGS order me a Walther PDP Steel Frame Compact 4" Pro. Will see if that approaches hybrid perfection for me.
 
Prefer hammer, but am (almost) equally at home with striker.
I do always try to match the tool to the environment/AO as much as possible.

I’m more likely to be in the boonies when I need to use my firearm than in civilization. That makes a difference, I believe.
 
I have both, not a real fan of striker guns.
For Carry I prefer a DA SA gun like the CZ and Sig Sauer. I like SAO guns like the 1911 as well, carried a 1911 Sig Sauer C3 for a lot of years.
Only reason I have a couple Glock clone pistols is because of compatibility with 3 of my PCC/PDW guns
 
I post the following link as food for thought.

Strikers can malfunction in cold weather.

Might make you think about a striker as your choice in a cold environment.

www.alaskasnewssource.com

‘That was my last resort’: Iditarod rookie recounts frantic bison encounter on trail

Fairbanks rookie Jody Potts-Joseph had quite a terrifying experience on the trail Tuesday shortly after leaving the Rohn checkpoint when her dog team ran up on a bison.
www.alaskasnewssource.com www.alaskasnewssource.com
 
Anchorite said:
I post the following link as food for thought.

Strikers can malfunction in cold weather.

Might make you think about a striker as your choice in a cold environment.

www.alaskasnewssource.com

‘That was my last resort’: Iditarod rookie recounts frantic bison encounter on trail

Fairbanks rookie Jody Potts-Joseph had quite a terrifying experience on the trail Tuesday shortly after leaving the Rohn checkpoint when her dog team ran up on a bison.
www.alaskasnewssource.com www.alaskasnewssource.com
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Hmm....might have to talk with my XDM10 4.5 OSP that sees use during the winter months while hunting. All these years and it has went boom every time I asked it to. Even mornings when the dot is crusted over with ice.
 
Jester560 said:
Hmm....might have to talk with my XDM10 4.5 OSP that sees use during the winter months while hunting. All these years and it has went boom every time I asked it to. Even mornings when the dot is crusted over with ice.
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You’d think that with all the torture testing strikers were subjected to during development someone would have come up with this sort of freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw cycle test. But, IDK.
 
first off, looking at it i dont like the echelon. i'll explain why in a moment. my regular edc is an XDM 10mm, i also change it out every once in a while with my SA ultra compact double stacker, (check my profile pic), 13 rounds of .45, my full size is 15 rounds of .45. now, the reason i dont like nor will i own an echelon is this, about 30 years ago a friend and i were out at our local range shooting, he fired about 1/2 a mag and went to reholster, he was using a glock 9mm. not sure how it happened, but the trigger somehow got bumped, no, he didnt hit it with his finger, it was no where near the trigger, round went in his thigh and out of his kneecap, he no longer walks right, his leg never bent correctly after that. when i decided on a striker fired gun, i chose the XDM, i have it in .40 and 10mm, i like the extra piece of mind of the dual safeties, trigger and grip, it doesnt matter how many times or how hard you pull the trigger it will NOT go off if you dont have the grip saftey engaged. i wouldnt own a glock if you gave it to me, very unsafe in my mind. which is the reason i dont like the echelon, trigger safety only.
 
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