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FRT triggers for Saint Edge

Hi,

Ty P. said:
Looking at FRT triggers for my Saint Edge. Brand I want is, Rare Breed. My research says the FRT-15 is a good choice. But I'd like to get the FRT-15 L2. Anyone see or know of any issues with my choice? Installation, fit, upgrades, etc.
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Welcome to the forum from the frosty Wild Wild Upper Midwest. I know @Belt Fed has a few FRTs. Hopefully he will be along soon to share his fun. In the meantime, thanks for joining us and Happy New Year.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Screw Rare Breed, look up how they are actively suing everyone in the FRT market claiming patent infringement. Including Hoffman who was the original inventor of the super safety and published his work online. Then a patent troll filed a claim and was awarded a fraudulent patent that was then sold to RB. Now RB sues Hoffman who has openly on the internet shared his invention and the development process. The bastards even used hoffmans original drawings to then claim the patent.

Atrius super safety
Partisan Disruptor
Arazona Regulator

Rip Delta Team
 
xdman said:
Screw Rare Breed, look up how they are actively suing everyone in the FRT market claiming patent infringement. Including Hoffman who was the original inventor of the super safety and published his work online. Then a patent troll filed a claim and was awarded a fraudulent patent that was then sold to RB. Now RB sues Hoffman who has openly on the internet shared his invention and the development process. The bastards even used hoffmans original drawings to then claim the patent.

Atrius super safety
Partisan Disruptor
Arazona Regulator

Rip Delta Team
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Here is the courts ruling. Language the Govt put in states RB must pursue action. See last paragraph.
RB “must enforce its patents”.
and will enforce its patents to prevent infringement that could threaten public safety

I’m not disagreeing with you. I think RB hand was forced by the DOJ.


The Department’s agreement with Rare Breed Triggers avoids the need for continued appeals in United States v. Rare Breed Triggers and continued litigation in other, related cases concerning the same issue. The settlement includes agreed-upon conditions that significantly advance public safety with respect to FRTs, including that Rare Breed will not develop or design FRTs for use in any pistol

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Friday, May 16, 2025

For Immediate Release
Office of Public Affairs
Today, in accordance with President Trump’s Executive Order Protecting Second Amendment Rights, as well as the Attorney General’s Second Amendment Enforcement Task Force, the Department of Justice announced the settlement of litigation between the federal government and Rare Breed Triggers.

“This Department of Justice believes that the 2nd Amendment is not a second-class right,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “And we are glad to end a needless cycle of litigation with a settlement that will enhance public safety.”

In June 2024, in Cargill v. Garland, the Supreme Court held that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) exceeded its statutory authority by issuing a rule classifying a bump stock as a “machinegun.” In July 2024, the Northern District of Texas applied Cargill v. Garland to a device called a “forced-reset trigger” (FRT) and concluded that FRTs also cannot be classified as a “machinegun.”

The Department’s agreement with Rare Breed Triggers avoids the need for continued appeals in United States v. Rare Breed Triggers and continued litigation in other, related cases concerning the same issue. The settlement includes agreed-upon conditions that significantly advance public safety with respect to FRTs, including that Rare Breed will not develop or design FRTs for use in any pistol and will enforce its patents to prevent infringement that could threaten public safety. Rare Breed also agrees to promote the safe and responsible use of its products.

The cases that will be resolved under the settlement agreement are:

  • NAGR v. Garland, 23-cv-830-O (N.D. Tex.), on appeal 24-10707 (5th Cir.).
  • United States v. Rare Breed Triggers LLC, No. 23-cv-369 (E.D.N.Y), on appeal 23-7276 (2d Cir.).
  • United States v. Miscellaneous Firearms and Related Parts and Equipment Listed in Exhibit A, 23-cv-17 (D. Utah).
Updated May 16, 2025
 
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KillerFord1977 said:
Here is the courts ruling. Language the Govt put in states RB must pursue action. See last paragraph.
RB “must enforce its patents”.
I’m not disagreeing with you. I think RB hand was forced by thw DOJ.


The Department’s agreement with Rare Breed Triggers avoids the need for continued appeals in United States v. Rare Breed Triggers and continued litigation in other, related cases concerning the same issue. The settlement includes agreed-upon conditions that significantly advance public safety with respect to FRTs, including that Rare Breed will not develop or design FRTs for use in any pistol

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Friday, May 16, 2025

For Immediate Release
Office of Public Affairs
Today, in accordance with President Trump’s Executive Order Protecting Second Amendment Rights, as well as the Attorney General’s Second Amendment Enforcement Task Force, the Department of Justice announced the settlement of litigation between the federal government and Rare Breed Triggers.

“This Department of Justice believes that the 2nd Amendment is not a second-class right,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “And we are glad to end a needless cycle of litigation with a settlement that will enhance public safety.”

In June 2024, in Cargill v. Garland, the Supreme Court held that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) exceeded its statutory authority by issuing a rule classifying a bump stock as a “machinegun.” In July 2024, the Northern District of Texas applied Cargill v. Garland to a device called a “forced-reset trigger” (FRT) and concluded that FRTs also cannot be classified as a “machinegun.”

The Department’s agreement with Rare Breed Triggers avoids the need for continued appeals in United States v. Rare Breed Triggers and continued litigation in other, related cases concerning the same issue. The settlement includes agreed-upon conditions that significantly advance public safety with respect to FRTs, including that Rare Breed will not develop or design FRTs for use in any pistol and will enforce its patents to prevent infringement that could threaten public safety. Rare Breed also agrees to promote the safe and responsible use of its products.

The cases that will be resolved under the settlement agreement are:

  • NAGR v. Garland, 23-cv-830-O (N.D. Tex.), on appeal 24-10707 (5th Cir.).
  • United States v. Rare Breed Triggers LLC, No. 23-cv-369 (E.D.N.Y), on appeal 23-7276 (2d Cir.).
  • United States v. Miscellaneous Firearms and Related Parts and Equipment Listed in Exhibit A, 23-cv-17 (D. Utah).
Updated May 16, 2025
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and will enforce its patents to prevent infringement that could threaten public safety.

Rare Breed patents were for the Rare Breed Style FRT. so yes you could excuse them for going after Delta Team Tactical an improvement on the RBT FRT. But whats not excusable is them buying a super safety patent in order to go after the Super Safeties, or other style versions like the AZ regulator that are completely different from the Rare Breed Design. Or how the hell can rear breed think they own the patents on a 10/22 or glock FRT that did not even exist until this last year, those are nothing like the rear breed style and just like the super safety, were basically openly developed online and free for people to use.
 
xdman said:
and will enforce its patents to prevent infringement that could threaten public safety.

Rare Breed patents were for the Rare Breed Style FRT. so yes you could excuse them for going after Delta Team Tactical an improvement on the RBT FRT. But whats not excusable is them buying a super safety patent in order to go after the Super Safeties, or other style versions like the AZ regulator that are completely different from the Rare Breed Design. Or how the hell can rear breed think they own the patents on a 10/22 or glock FRT that did not even exist until this last year, those are nothing like the rear breed style and just like the super safety, were basically openly developed online and free for people to use.
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Govt put language in the settlement that forced RB to go after others. In effect made RB do the govt bidding.
IMO
 
KillerFord1977 said:
Govt put language in the settlement that forced RB to go after others. In effect made RB do the govt bidding.
IMO
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Yes I know….the key word is “it’s” patents. Rare Breed is supposed to enforce their patents….their patents were for a cassette style drop in trigger. Thats why I said they could be excused for going after DTT. But their patents do not include anything for a super safety, or Arizona Regulator or the trip levers. That is an excuse they are using going after completely different designs that differ from their patents.
 
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