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Got My First Shotgun

1bravo9 said:
Mine was a great duty shotgun.

Like you (your Mossberg) I upgraded the stock and forend, for me it was with Magpul.

The funny thing about mine is that for a long time it had that same heat shield on the barrel that yours does.
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The heat shield is Mossberg factory. That gun started it's life as a 20" PGP. I forget what their name for it was. The only changes I made to it was the Magpul SGA butt stock and the Magpul MOE forend. And an upgraded safety from NDZ, only after mine shot craps after 30 years of hard use.

They called it the Cruiser model.
 
The Remington 870 was a great design and the Police standard for decades. But in the last ten or fifteen years fell into the trap of making it cheaper, thinking that was a viable marketing strategy. The race to the bottom never is. Firearms are special. They are handed down from generation to generation...they are not disposable goods like everything else at Walmart. So when Remington went cheap (plastic trigger guard is a good tell) they lost value as a brand. Sad. An older Remington 870 cycles faster than a semi auto. I almost think I could throw mine into a duffel bag with a handful of shells, shake it, and the 870 would emerge fully loaded with the safety on. The Remington 870 used to be MILES ahead of the Mossberg in terms of quality...now it comes down to what kind of safety you want. Sad. But given my druthers, it would be an old 870. How serious am I with this endorsement? It is my bedside shotgun. Usually. Sometimes I hoss the old Winchester 1897 out of the safe when the nightly news says goblins are afoot. Keep the trigger pulled back on that one and just work the slide; it becomes a buckshot firehose. One has to see it to believe it.
 
Winchester67 said:
The Remington 870 was a great design and the Police standard for decades. But in the last ten or fifteen years fell into the trap of making it cheaper, thinking that was a viable marketing strategy. The race to the bottom never is. Firearms are special. They are handed down from generation to generation...they are not disposable goods like everything else at Walmart. So when Remington went cheap (plastic trigger guard is a good tell) they lost value as a brand. Sad. An older Remington 870 cycles faster than a semi auto. I almost think I could throw mine into a duffel bag with a handful of shells, shake it, and the 870 would emerge fully loaded with the safety on. The Remington 870 used to be MILES ahead of the Mossberg in terms of quality...now it comes down to what kind of safety you want. Sad. But given my druthers, it would be an old 870. How serious am I with this endorsement? It is my bedside shotgun. Usually. Sometimes I hoss the old Winchester 1897 out of the safe when the nightly news says goblins are afoot. Keep the trigger pulled back on that one and just work the slide; it becomes a buckshot firehose. One has to see it to believe it.
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I started hunting with a model 31 Remington. The daddy of the 870. It was slicker then any of the 870s I owned through the years.
 
To each his own. I purchased a Benelli M2 Tactical for HD. Holds 5 + 1 + 1 rds. The last one being the ghost round. Total of 7 rds. Expensive, yes. Worth it? Time will tell. At least I or my offspring will have it when they need it to be there! Quality is above else important to me.

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And Kir you have retained the shotgun stock, which I consider critical to rapid target acquisition and elimination. So many stray the path to the "tactical" pistol grip. Which I admit freely is better when covering suspects. But frankly a shotgun is at its core is a reactive weapon...see the bird, shoot the bird. I maintain nothing is faster than a traditional shotgun style stock. I prefer a straight grip, but concede I am a bit of a snob when it comes to shotguns.
 
Bassbob said:
You're going to need to be a hell of a lot more specific for this to be true.
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I would have to agree. I ran my mossberg pretty damn close to Don's Winchester SA but no way was it faster, at best it was a dead heat. And I was, am, pretty damn good on running a pump. It was even my favorite hunting rifle action in a 760 Remington, and used an old gallery .22 a lot.
 
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As usual, blanket statements are rarely accurate. I should have said "as fast" or maybe even "almost as fast". I stand corrected. The 870 is a classic workhorse and there is a ton of aftermarket support. But my favorite pump shotgun is the Winchester Model 12. It is as smooth as oiled ball bearings on glass. Mine was a graduation gift to my ex-father in law. He wanted me to keep it even after the divorce. Great guy. Anyway, it is a Skeet Grade Model 12 with a solid rib. I remember the first time I pulled it out at the skeet fields. Larry Potterfield, a Model 12 man from way back, was drooling over it as I slowly pulled it from the case. And I could hear him gagging when it was out of the case and the mint condition Model 12 had an aftermarket recoil pad and a Poly Choke. Ha ha. That was the hot set up in the 50's but it destroyed the collector value. I don't care...I get into my opponents head on the sporting clays course by dialing my Poly Choke up to "Death Ray" loudly. Back when Larry owned Fajen he was so offended by the Pachmayer rotting recoil pad he physically took it from me after a round of Sporting Clays and brought it back with the correct Winchester Solid Pad the next week. Good times.
 
If I wanted to buy a modern shotgun, it would likely be a Mossberg in the 500 family. We have multiple shotguns suitable for cowboy action shooting; 1897's, 1887's, hammerless doubles and hammered doubles. My latest purchase was a 1963 Model 12 we use in Wild Bunch matches. 28" barrel makes it difficult to put in the safe, but I don't want to cut it.
 
I affectionately refer to my Winchester 1897 as the "Wreck of an old 97". It belonged to Floyd Wine, a great gunsmith that worked for Brownells. After he passed via an unexpected heart attack, I sadly bought the 97 and two Ruger .357 Vaqueros from his widow. With a 20 or so inch barrel it is very lively in the hands and fast on target.
 
Winchester67 said:
As usual, blanket statements are rarely accurate. I should have said "as fast" or maybe even "almost as fast". I stand corrected. The 870 is a classic workhorse and there is a ton of aftermarket support. But my favorite pump shotgun is the Winchester Model 12. It is as smooth as oiled ball bearings on glass. Mine was a graduation gift to my ex-father in law. He wanted me to keep it even after the divorce. Great guy. Anyway, it is a Skeet Grade Model 12 with a solid rib. I remember the first time I pulled it out at the skeet fields. Larry Potterfield, a Model 12 man from way back, was drooling over it as I slowly pulled it from the case. And I could hear him gagging when it was out of the case and the mint condition Model 12 had an aftermarket recoil pad and a Poly Choke. Ha ha. That was the hot set up in the 50's but it destroyed the collector value. I don't care...I get into my opponents head on the sporting clays course by dialing my Poly Choke up to "Death Ray" loudly. Back when Larry owned Fajen he was so offended by the Pachmayer rotting recoil pad he physically took it from me after a round of Sporting Clays and brought it back with the correct Winchester Solid Pad the next week. Good times.
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My dad used to buy a lot of stocks from Fajen.

My first quail gun still sports a pair.
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With a hand rubbed oil finish thatā€™s now over 40 years old.
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Winchester67 said:
I affectionately refer to my Winchester 1897 as the "Wreck of an old 97". It belonged to Floyd Wine, a great gunsmith that worked for Brownells. After he passed via an unexpected heart attack, I sadly bought the 97 and two Ruger .357 Vaqueros from his widow. With a 20 or so inch barrel it is very lively in the hands and fast on target.
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Mine has a 30ā€ barrel and is circa 1951.

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