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Israel launches Airstrikes Aganst Iranian nuclear sites.

this i sfunny but not funny
iran exports between 1.5 and 2 million barrels of oil per day
most goes to china
and few other odd balls
but the news is fright with OMG oil prices on rise as isreal disrupts irans oil production

any thing to jack with fuel prices
i know fuel is inelastic but 2 million barrels is a drop in bucket of daily world wide production we hit 13 to 14 million barrels in the US alone
world wide its 82 to 83 mill per day
iran is an outlier in the chart and sums
 
Saudi Arabia built a new pipeline from the Gulf through their peninsula to the Red Sea, and is using the Trans-Iraq to the Med now. They may also be building a second pipeline to the Red Sea.

1/2 of the Strait is Omani, so if Iraq meeses with that the :poop: will hit the fan, especailly since India & Chian gets their Iranian oil via the Strait.
 
early this morning
cnbc the "girl" was all in a tizzy how she could not understand why crude had not flown through the roof
as it was s till 71 and dropping
she stated IRAN IS A top crude producer.... i guess she cant read or simply wants to stoke fears as typical

its hilarious on that channel , so far all the "experts" are not understanding how crude has not not hit the roof and gone to 100 .... iran is NOT a major crude producer or exporter

i surely dont agree with what BB said last night about how trump asked him not to kill the supreme leader in iran
that would have been a powerful event. snake dead and maggots sent garbage
 
The media talking heads can’t figure out why things aren’t worse for everybody else, cause of course that would be something else they could blame Israel and Trump for.😏. If I heard any of the mainstream folks say the sky was blue and the sun was out I’d have to check and see because I don’t believe them. Just heard Tehran has now reached out to several countries to try and get the US to open talks with Israel for an immediate ceasefire. 😏. Ya go around passing out wolf tickets about how badass you are, get called on it and don’t wanna play anymore. A-holes! Would have served them right if Israel had nuked their butts. I hope Israel bombs ‘em out of existance. I wish the folks in Iran would rise up and overthrow the morons running their country. Iran has been a PITA for the entire world since ‘79. About time somebody gives them a Serious ass whuppin’.
 
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The end of the last "active" F-14's. :(

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Iranian F-14 'Persian Tomcats' Obliterated In Israeli Airstrike

Regardless of how this conflict ends, if an Iranian Air Force of any relevancy exists after it, it is very unlikely to include the F-14.
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At least "Maverick" got one out. ;)

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Iran Update Special Report, June 16, 2025, Evening Edition​

Institute for the Study of War

Iran has maintained its negotiating position on its nuclear program during the Israeli campaign, meaning that Iran does not appear willing to negotiate an end to the Iran-Israel War yet.
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One Third Of Iran’s Long-Range Missile Launchers Destroyed, Israel Claims (Updated)

Israel is declaring some progress in rolling back Iran’s long-range ballistic missile capabilities, but these weapons remain a major threat. Israel is declaring some progress in rolling back Iran’s long-range ballistic missile capabilities, but these weapons remain a major threat.
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Spike Missiles That Destroyed Air Defenses From Inside Iran Were Remotely Operated​

Iran shows evidence of how Mossad's anti-tank missiles and drones were deployed from inside the country during the war's opening barrage.

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Spike Missiles That Destroyed Air Defenses From Inside Iran Were Remotely Operated

Iran shows evidence of how Mossad's anti-tank missiles and drones were deployed from inside the country during the war's opening barrage.
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Major U.S. Middle East-Focused Buildup Confirmed (Updated)​

The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is now rushing to the Middle East and a snap deployment of tankers has landed at bases across the Atlantic.

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Major U.S. Middle East-Focused Buildup Confirmed (Updated)

The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is now rushing to the Middle East and a snap deployment of tankers has landed at bases across the Atlantic.
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Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation (Updated)​

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Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation (Updated)

The mysterious migration could signal a major contingency being put in place or even a change in U.S. policy on the Iran-Israel war.
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Talyn said:

Major U.S. Middle East-Focused Buildup Confirmed (Updated)​

The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is now rushing to the Middle East and a snap deployment of tankers has landed at bases across the Atlantic.

www.twz.com

Major U.S. Middle East-Focused Buildup Confirmed (Updated)

The Nimitz Carrier Strike Group is now rushing to the Middle East and a snap deployment of tankers has landed at bases across the Atlantic.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

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Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation (Updated)​

www.twz.com

Armada Of USAF Tankers Just Deployed East Over Atlantic Spurring Speculation (Updated)

The mysterious migration could signal a major contingency being put in place or even a change in U.S. policy on the Iran-Israel war.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

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Maybe 1979 payback is finally catching up with the Mullahs
 
Does any of this not strike any of you as an intelligence gaff on the part of the US?

In March, DNI Gabbard told Congress that the intelligence community, "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

Then Israel goes on TV and says Iran is days away from having a bomb and will kill all the Israelis.

Somebody is wrong. If the Iranians were in fact on the brink of having operational nuclear weapons, then essentially everything DCI Gabbard said in March was wrong, and the entire American Intelligence Community missed the mark widely on Iran’s nuclear weapons program. If Gabbard is right, then the Israelis are either lost in a labyrinth of lies or they are deliberately misleading us and the world.

Think about it.
 
InteI assessments are a snapshot in time based on known information at the time. It can change in a moment. The enemy will do their best to hide their most secret programs and intent. Israel's intelligence agencies have penetrated Iran's programs on the ground and would be in a position to know best. U.S. intel is limited to imagery and outside sources. Things change rapidly when new info comes to light. Trump became animated recently when the head of IAEA informed him that Iran was cheating on the nuke restrictions. We knew that but IAEA must recently have learned something new that confirms it. I believe the answer lies in those underground facilities.

Our mass movement of ships and aircraft to the region is ominous but may just be Trump's way of ratcheting up negotiations. Also a deterrent for them striking U.S. interests. They damaged the U.S. Embassy in Israel with one of their missiles. I wonder if Trump thinks that was incidental, or does he believe our Embassy targeted?
 
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Anchorite said:
Does any of this not strike any of you as an intelligence gaff on the part of the US?

In March, DNI Gabbard told Congress that the intelligence community, "continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he suspended in 2003."

Then Israel goes on TV and says Iran is days away from having a bomb and will kill all the Israelis.

Somebody is wrong. If the Iranians were in fact on the brink of having operational nuclear weapons, then essentially everything DCI Gabbard said in March was wrong, and the entire American Intelligence Community missed the mark widely on Iran’s nuclear weapons program. If Gabbard is right, then the Israelis are either lost in a labyrinth of lies or they are deliberately misleading us and the world.

Think about it.
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I don't think the US has the same level of intel on Iran that Israel does. A lot of people think we have the best intelligence in the world when it comes to what's going on in the middle east, and we really don't. The Mossad does.

Edit: To answer your question more directly, I don't think Tulsi lied to us, and I also don't think it makes us look bad. Tulsi had absolutely no reason to lie. In fact, I'm pretty sure Trump would've fired her if she did. I think the answer was genuine and as accurate as we could best estimate for the time. The fact that it's wrong means nothing. Intel agencies get bad or outdated info all the time, it's just part of the cost of being an intel agency.
 
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